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Re: SF Yellow Cab to file for bankruptcy

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It will be interesting if there is room for traditional cab companies after the market stabilizes. Uber and Lyft have been effectively subsidizing fares at the same time as providing superior service.

It is not really clear what level of service the market demands without loads of venture capital helping to subsidize it.

Re: SF Yellow Cab to file for bankruptcy

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This was bound to happen, just a matter of time. Uber and Lyft are able to operate at much lower costs, and additionally have basically an unlimited supply of capital (VC investment). Traditional businesses have no chance of being competitive in this market.

Re: SF Yellow Cab to file for bankruptcy

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Too bad, so sad... If they hadn't allowed their service to get so horrible, with nasty old cars, drivers that don't speak English and drive around in circles to increase fares, drivers claiming their card readers are "broken" so you have to pay cash, taking an hour to show up when called, passing by black people, etc., then this wouldn't be happening.

From the article: "Cab drivers, on the other hand, maintain that they undergo more rigorous criminal checks, enjoy more robust insurance, and generally have better knowledge of city streets."

Who cares about knowledge of city streets? Haven't they heard of Google Maps and Waze and GPS? This just shows how out-of-touch and behind-the-times the cab industry is. The insurance is a canard, as Uber insures their drivers for more than the cab companies (the problem with Uber is what happens when you don't have a paying rider). And criminal background checks are useless if you haven't been in the country very long; how are they going to check your background in Pakistan? Also, the Uber/Lyft reputation systems are far more valuable anyway, plus Uber/Lyft keep detailed records of all their drivers' movements when they have riders, so it's pretty hard for them to get away with anything; cabs aren't guaranteed to have any of that oversight.

And apparently driving for Uber isn't that bad, since the cab companies are now complaining that all the good drivers are switching to Uber/Lyft, leaving them with crappy drivers who earn them huge lawsuits for accidents they cause.

Re: SF Yellow Cab to file for bankruptcy

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What's it like to ride in a SF taxi? I'm not a frequent taxi user, but last time I rode in an NYC cab, the partition made me feel like I was going to jail and the advertising screen made me feel like I was riding public transportation. No doubt the normal private cars are more comfortable.

Re: SF Yellow Cab to file for bankruptcy

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This was bound to happen, just a matter of time. Uber and Lyft are able to operate at much lower costs, and additionally have basically an unlimited supply of capital (VC investment). Traditional businesses have no chance of being competitive in this market.

What makes U&L lower cost? Just the lack of driver health insurance and benefits?

Re: SF Yellow Cab to file for bankruptcy

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post #5

What's it like to ride in a SF taxi? I'm not a frequent taxi user, but last time I rode in an NYC cab, the partition made me feel like I was going to jail and the advertising screen made me feel like I was riding public transportation. No doubt the normal private cars are more comfortable.

This, a million times this. Also, taxi drivers could care less about your ride experience. No way to rate them and cause any change, so they just treat everyone like crap.

Re: SF Yellow Cab to file for bankruptcy

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post #7

This was bound to happen, just a matter of time. Uber and Lyft are able to operate at much lower costs, and additionally have basically an unlimited supply of capital (VC investment). Traditional businesses have no chance of being competitive in this market.

What makes U&L lower cost? Just the lack of driver health insurance and benefits?

If you think that's not much, think of the difference in taxes between the US and northern Europe.

Re: SF Yellow Cab to file for bankruptcy

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes U&L lower cost? Just the lack of driver health insurance and benefits?

If you think that's not much, think of the difference in taxes between the US and northern Europe.

So your business is workable because it evades taxes? What is this, Russia?
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