Typing with pleasure
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Typing with pleasure
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#2I really enjoyed that write up. The only piece I would love to see added would be the addition of emacs and vim in a native console.
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#3I really enjoyed that write up. The only piece I would love to see added would be the addition of emacs and vim in a native console.
Yep, I once had just a native console open when installing linux freshly and the lag was so low that I immediately felt how much better it was and that it made me think about lag.
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#4I really enjoyed that write up. The only piece I would love to see added would be the addition of emacs and vim in a native console.
Yep, I once had just a native console open when installing linux freshly and the lag was so low that I immediately felt how much better it was and that it made me think about lag.
I use terminal based Vim exclusively and now I'm completely spoiled. Every other interface seems ridiculously "laggy". I don't know if it's just a psychological thing or something more like the SpeechJammer, but if I type at a co-workers computer I will sometimes completely lock up and be unable to type for a second or two.
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#5This is a really cool writeup. It's probably worth noting that humans don't notice latency under about 100ms and the table at the end shows all the editors surveyed coming in under that number. That said, I've noticed severe latency problems while trying out Atom, and almost never have problems with Vim (unless I try to edit a massive file in it). But for me the latency problems I notice usually aren't typing ones, but rather other interactions with the editor such as opening new files or trying to move around text.
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#6I really enjoyed that write up. The only piece I would love to see added would be the addition of emacs and vim in a native console.
Yep, I once had just a native console open when installing linux freshly and the lag was so low that I immediately felt how much better it was and that it made me think about lag.
No framebuffer, right? In my experience, the framebuffer introduces an annoying and noticeable delay.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, I once had just a native console open when installing linux freshly and the lag was so low that I immediately felt how much better it was and that it made me think about lag.
I use terminal based Vim exclusively and now I'm completely spoiled. Every other interface seems ridiculously "laggy". I don't know if it's just a psychological thing or something more like the SpeechJammer, but if I type at a co-workers computer I will sometimes completely lock up and be unable to type for a second or two.
I really don't think that is a psychological thing, i ben using emacs in the terminal for years and only within Apples default Terminal application because iTerm is really laggy on linux i prefer terminology that is really really fast
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#8And here I am, working over SSH -- every stroke requires a round-trip. Over a high-latency link, that's sometimes a few seconds between a batch of characters appear :-)
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#9This is a really cool writeup. It's probably worth noting that humans don't notice latency under about 100ms and the table at the end shows all the editors surveyed coming in under that number. That said, I've noticed severe latency problems while trying out Atom, and almost never have problems with Vim (unless I try to edit a massive file in it). But for me the latency problems I notice usually aren't typing ones, b…
It's a good point that a lot of editor latency issues aren't specific to typing. One thing that has always annoyed me is if an editor has slow find-and-replace for large files or projects.
I also find it interesting that you claim that humans don't notice latency under 100ms as though it is established fact, considering the OP spends basically the whole first section trying to debunk that incorrect but commonly quoted belief.
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#10I really enjoyed that write up. The only piece I would love to see added would be the addition of emacs and vim in a native console.
I just did quick measurements for vim 7.4 and emacs 23.4.1 in xterm, rxvt/urxvt, and gnome-terminal. The results depend most strongly on the terminal type. emacs' latency is always a bit (0.1-0.3ms or so) lower than vim's. Apart from that, xterm was around 1.1ms, (u)rxvt around 17.5ms, and gnome-terminal around 26.2ms. I wonder where the delay in rxvt compared to xterm comes from.