What Happens When You Ban Affirmative Action in College Admissions
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What Happens When You Ban Affirmative Action in College Admissions
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#4Seems like a pretty ludicrous analysis. Can be summed up as 'If you ban quotas, the people who get in because of quotas will not be as represented'. Uhh - duh? Will they have another post 'What happens when heavy objects are thrown up in the air - do they fall to the ground or float away?'
There is actually a much more interesting analysis of effects of AA on its recipients I read recently here: http://spectator.org/articles/64739/little-understood-engine...
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>are you obliged to help out those around you or not?
How is either side helping out more than the other? Either way of doing admission, someone is getting cut. This isn't like deciding to donate to charity or not, where one side is clearly not helping others out.
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#6"A society which has for hundreds of years done something special against the Negro must now do something special for the Negro." --Martin Luther King, Jr.
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#7IMO, the real problem with differences in educational opportunity is the knock-on effects in hiring decisions. If there were many more jobs that could not discriminate on college degree, then Affirmative Action doesn't matter (since the net present value of a college degree goes down). As a nice side-effect, a college education is often a positional good in hiring decisions, so we're often better off as a whole if we stop consuming it. (That is, instead of looking at 5 college graduates for a firefighting job, we look at 5 non-graduates, and we get to save 20 person-years of education costs)
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Your post assumes that affirmative action helps people. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't but it shouldn't be assumed. People may also believe there are better ways to help people than affirmative action.
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> I fear for where the discussion will go on HN with this one.
I kind of expect something like this satire of how the Canadian cabinet was deliberately made to contain 50% women:
http://www.thebeaverton.com/national/item/2204-50-female-cab...
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#10Seems like a pretty ludicrous analysis. Can be summed up as 'If you ban quotas, the people who get in because of quotas will not be as represented'. Uhh - duh? Will they have another post 'What happens when heavy objects are thrown up in the air - do they fall to the ground or float away?' There is actually a much more interesting analysis of effects of AA on its recipients I read recently here: http://spectator.org/…
I think the argument was 'if you ban quotas based on race in favor of other measure which should still help increase diversity, you don't get as good an effect as just quotas'.
That it is lower shouldn't be surprising, but how much lower or higher than the expected lower might be surprising.