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Image Shows a Dolphin's Echolocated Impression of a Submerged Human

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Re: Image Shows a Dolphin's Echolocated Impression of a Submerged Human

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"Research team leader Jack Kassewitz of SpeakDolphin.com said in a press release that “our recent success has left us all speechless. We now think it is safe to speculate that dolphins may employ a ‘sono-pictorial’ form of language, a language of pictures that they share with each other. If that proves to be true an exciting future lies ahead for inter species communications.”"

Re: Image Shows a Dolphin's Echolocated Impression of a Submerged Human

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Simply because it's possible to deconvolve a dolphins sonar clicks into a 2 dimensional representation approximating our visual senses doesn't mean they have any such similar experience of it, on top of that, the whole linguistic angle seems to be wild speculation.

Re: Image Shows a Dolphin's Echolocated Impression of a Submerged Human

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Simply because it's possible to deconvolve a dolphins sonar clicks into a 2 dimensional representation approximating our visual senses doesn't mean they have any such similar experience of it, on top of that, the whole linguistic angle seems to be wild speculation.

I cannot find it now, but there was some recent study that showed that dolphins can emit clicks which match echolocation returns, in essence communicating "images" to each other. Presumably this is what they're referring to.

Re: Image Shows a Dolphin's Echolocated Impression of a Submerged Human

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Simply because it's possible to deconvolve a dolphins sonar clicks into a 2 dimensional representation approximating our visual senses doesn't mean they have any such similar experience of it, on top of that, the whole linguistic angle seems to be wild speculation.

No, but it would be the same information content -- the dolphin's subjective experience of the signal could be different, but this representation shows us (humans) the information in the signal.

Anyway, this SpeakDolphin.com and "CymaScope" thing is clearly bullshit: https://www.cymascope.com/

Looks like they're maybe gearing up to sell 3D prints of bullshit? http://www.speakdolphin.com/pressRelease/Press_Release_3D_Pr...

Re: Image Shows a Dolphin's Echolocated Impression of a Submerged Human

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> In a scientific first, researchers have just reproduced what a dolphin saw as it encountered a male diver.

I wonder why they specified that it was a male diver? Would a dolphin's echolocation be able to tell a male human from a female human? The resolution doesn't look high enough to distinguish external genitalia, but maybe differences in internal composition (such as body fat) might change the character of the echoes sufficiently to distinguish?

Re: Image Shows a Dolphin's Echolocated Impression of a Submerged Human

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post #7

> In a scientific first, researchers have just reproduced what a dolphin saw as it encountered a male diver. I wonder why they specified that it was a male diver? Would a dolphin's echolocation be able to tell a male human from a female human? The resolution doesn't look high enough to distinguish external genitalia, but maybe differences in internal composition (such as body fat) might change the character of the ec…

Occam's Razor suggests old-fashioned sexism

Re: Image Shows a Dolphin's Echolocated Impression of a Submerged Human

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Simply because it's possible to deconvolve a dolphins sonar clicks into a 2 dimensional representation approximating our visual senses doesn't mean they have any such similar experience of it, on top of that, the whole linguistic angle seems to be wild speculation.

I cannot find it now, but there was some recent study that showed that dolphins can emit clicks which match echolocation returns, in essence communicating "images" to each other. Presumably this is what they're referring to.

I think that is an urban legend at this point. I also heard this claim from a colleague. When I did research I found nothing of the sort.

Re: Image Shows a Dolphin's Echolocated Impression of a Submerged Human

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"Research team leader Jack Kassewitz of SpeakDolphin.com said in a press release that “our recent success has left us all speechless. We now think it is safe to speculate that dolphins may employ a ‘sono-pictorial’ form of language, a language of pictures that they share with each other. If that proves to be true an exciting future lies ahead for inter species communications.”"

If that proves to be true an exciting future lies ahead for inter species communications.

So, porn?

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