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Increased intelligence is a myth so far (2014)

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Re: Increased intelligence is a myth so far (2014)

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It seems more and more apparent that large sections of modern science are quackery. Will we fix this somehow and look back on this era from the future, and wonder about the many millions spent on serious people in white coats who basically produced random noise with a dash of prejudice and a touch of click-bait?

Re: Increased intelligence is a myth so far (2014)

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There is a legitimate concern in here about the methodology of testing intelligence-training interventions, but it's not quite clear what exactly the thing is that "is a myth", and I followed a reference at random (Jaeggi et al, 2008) and arrived at a study whose methodology was fine.

(EDIT: Whose methodology passed my cursory inspection but was terrible in a subtle way.)

Re: Increased intelligence is a myth so far (2014)

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There is a legitimate concern in here about the methodology of testing intelligence-training interventions, but it's not quite clear what exactly the thing is that "is a myth", and I followed a reference at random (Jaeggi et al, 2008) and arrived at a study whose methodology was fine. (EDIT: Whose methodology passed my cursory inspection but was terrible in a subtle way.)

Don't tell Gwern that. http://www.gwern.net/DNB%20FAQ#moody-2009-re-jaeggi-2008

Re: Increased intelligence is a myth so far (2014)

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It seems more and more apparent that large sections of modern science are quackery. Will we fix this somehow and look back on this era from the future, and wonder about the many millions spent on serious people in white coats who basically produced random noise with a dash of prejudice and a touch of click-bait?

To be fair, for most of history large sections of science were quackery. Didn't really stop us from getting here.

Re: Increased intelligence is a myth so far (2014)

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There is a legitimate concern in here about the methodology of testing intelligence-training interventions, but it's not quite clear what exactly the thing is that "is a myth", and I followed a reference at random (Jaeggi et al, 2008) and arrived at a study whose methodology was fine. (EDIT: Whose methodology passed my cursory inspection but was terrible in a subtle way.)

Don't tell Gwern that. http://www.gwern.net/DNB%20FAQ#moody-2009-re-jaeggi-2008

Huh, good catch. The too-short time limit issue was a methodological issue I had definitely not thought to check for. (Haier doesn't mention it.)

Re: Increased intelligence is a myth so far (2014)

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It seems more and more apparent that large sections of modern science are quackery. Will we fix this somehow and look back on this era from the future, and wonder about the many millions spent on serious people in white coats who basically produced random noise with a dash of prejudice and a touch of click-bait?

To be fair, for most of history large sections of science were quackery. Didn't really stop us from getting here.

True, the wrong answer can sometimes make the correct one clear.

Re: Increased intelligence is a myth so far (2014)

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As a species (or society) do we have clear objectives in mind when we seek to 'increase intelligence'? Is it higher productivity? more progress? enhanced capability? faster learning? Aren't there lots of low hanging fruit that we haven't taken yet? First, shouldn't we try to eliminate the things that are known to cause decreases in intelligence? Or, do we not know what those are?

Also, having been around a lot of 'highly intelligent' people, I have found that many are still not very effective. Most still make bad choices, have poor judgement, adhere to dogma, can't think laterally or fluidly, lack curiosity, lack discipline, lack self-reflection, etc. Is it possible for a 'smart' individual to easily get better at those things?

Re: Increased intelligence is a myth so far (2014)

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It seems more and more apparent that large sections of modern science are quackery. Will we fix this somehow and look back on this era from the future, and wonder about the many millions spent on serious people in white coats who basically produced random noise with a dash of prejudice and a touch of click-bait?

To be fair, for most of history large sections of science were quackery. Didn't really stop us from getting here.

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