Learning About Statistical Learning
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Learning About Statistical Learning
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#3That said,
Why second edition intro to algs? Why not third? also, considering that intro to algs is one of the "Books Programmers Claim to Have Read" http://www.billthelizard.com/2008/12/books-programmers-dont-... , so those planning to read it, note that it is best learned in a classroom setting where you are forced to work through the problems.
Finally, interesting that he does amazon reference links to all these books, hopefully profit opportunities didn't taint the items on his list!
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#4Another way might be to just get going, and pick up knowledge on the way?
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#5This is a good list. That said, Why second edition intro to algs? Why not third? also, considering that intro to algs is one of the "Books Programmers Claim to Have Read" http://www.billthelizard.com/2008/12/books-programmers-dont-... , so those planning to read it, note that it is best learned in a classroom setting where you are forced to work through the problems. Finally, interesting that he does amazon reference…
I agree that the CLR book is best learned by working through problems. For those that may not have retainend as much as they would have liked from classroom work, I think needing to use algorithms and programming them yourself also works very well. In that vein, CLR is also a great reference text.
I don't make any money from Amazon. Believe me, my friend, it is purely the other way around. ;-)
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#6HNers: any suggestions on where to find these books for cheap. (outside university libraries)
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#7Interesting on the one hand, but is anybody seriously going to go through those books one by one now? Personally I have troubles going through just one book (Pattern Recognition by Bishop atm), and even that might be useless without practical application. I managed to eventually read through MacKay (enjoyable book and available as a free PDF, too) and feel I have already forgotten most of it again :-( Another way mig…
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#8Definitely a very good list. But also an expensive list! HNers: any suggestions on where to find these books for cheap. (outside university libraries)
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#9Interesting on the one hand, but is anybody seriously going to go through those books one by one now? Personally I have troubles going through just one book (Pattern Recognition by Bishop atm), and even that might be useless without practical application. I managed to eventually read through MacKay (enjoyable book and available as a free PDF, too) and feel I have already forgotten most of it again :-( Another way mig…
Working through CLRS completely is a very time consuming task I think Bradford intended that book as a reference, but yes, you need to work through some of the stuff in order. For example, you need to be fairly conversant in Linear Algebra, probability, and proof technique before you can tackle Bishop, else you won't make much progress. Once you get some basics under you (especially the underlying math stuff) you'll end up being able to read through an ML book the way you can read through a moderately tough book in programming.
" I managed to eventually read through MacKay (enjoyable book and available as a free PDF, too) and feel I have already forgotten most of it again :-("
The best way to learn this stuff is to have an eventual project in mind. I ended up learning most of this stuff because I was working on a Robotics project for the fine folks in the Indian Defence Depts and was very much "thrown in at the deep end" - nothing like it to accelerate learning but I wouldn't wish to do it again. for the first few weeks I couldn't (literally) understand a single sentence in an hour long meeting. Very humbling.
Depending on what exactly you wish to do, you maybe able to avoid many of the books. If you think I can help you narrow down to a smaller list , please ask here or send me email (my email id is in my profile).
But yes, in the end Norvig's point applies here too (as Bradford points out. I have been working in ML for 8 years now so still 2 years to go :-P) .
OTOH I am just a programmer who got bored with enterprise software and have no formal training in math (or CS for that matter) and if I can do it anyone (certainly anyone on HN) can.
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#10Interesting on the one hand, but is anybody seriously going to go through those books one by one now? Personally I have troubles going through just one book (Pattern Recognition by Bishop atm), and even that might be useless without practical application. I managed to eventually read through MacKay (enjoyable book and available as a free PDF, too) and feel I have already forgotten most of it again :-( Another way mig…
"but is anybody seriously going to go through those books one by one now? Personally I have troubles going through just one book (Pattern Recognition by Bishop atm), and even that might be useless without practical application" Working through CLRS completely is a very time consuming task I think Bradford intended that book as a reference, but yes, you need to work through some of the stuff in order. For example, you…
I took a 3 year detour through pure engineering just because that part is so important and was causing me to experience a bottleneck.
I also agree that driving your studies with a real project helps tremendously.
Ultimately, you need to think about whether you really want to commit to this. It is very hard work, but also very fun and rewarding.