Self driving cars crash five times as much as regular ones
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Re: Self driving cars crash five times as much as regular ones
#2IMHO autonomous driving systems still do not mix well with humans on the road. Could even say they are not compatible with each other.
With how things have been going, soon we would have systems predicting behavior of human driver for safer driving. But by then, roads will have humans, systems predicting human behavior and systems released between the two without prediction.
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#3>Still, in spite of the self-driving cars’ high accident rate, the University of Michigan study did not contradict the conclusions of Google GOOG 0.56% and the DMV: The authors agreed that self-driving cars were not to blame in any of their crashes
That's little consolation when you've just crashed.
And it basically translates in that they're not very good (compared to humans) in handling active crisis situations on the road, where another driver took a bad turn, there was some obstacle, etc.
>Finally, self-driving cars actually have a lower fatality rate, with zero deaths resulting from their crashes
Obviously, since they have not driven even 1/100.000 of the miles that regular cars have had.
Re: Self driving cars crash five times as much as regular ones
#4IMHO autonomous driving systems still do not mix well with humans on the road. Could even say they are not compatible with each other. With how things have been going, soon we would have systems predicting behavior of human driver for safer driving. But by then, roads will have humans, systems predicting human behavior and systems released between the two without prediction.
I am of a similar opinion. People have been talking about self driving cars for years, but for some reason as soon as people hear that Google is developing them its assumed they will be a reality in the near future.
Likewise there is lots of talk about automation of jobs, which in a way is happening, yet at the same time we seem to be working harder for more hours than 20 years ago.
Re: Self driving cars crash five times as much as regular ones
#5IMHO autonomous driving systems still do not mix well with humans on the road. Could even say they are not compatible with each other. With how things have been going, soon we would have systems predicting behavior of human driver for safer driving. But by then, roads will have humans, systems predicting human behavior and systems released between the two without prediction.
I am of a similar opinion. People have been talking about self driving cars for years, but for some reason as soon as people hear that Google is developing them its assumed they will be a reality in the near future. Likewise there is lots of talk about automation of jobs, which in a way is happening, yet at the same time we seem to be working harder for more hours than 20 years ago.
With you until that automation thing. The reason we work harder is, most jobs are automated. The remaining ones are paid a lot, so they try to pack in as much as they can to make the whole process cheaper. They'll automate these jobs too as soon as they can.
Upshot: if you have a job, you're working harder because automation.
Re: Self driving cars crash five times as much as regular ones
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am of a similar opinion. People have been talking about self driving cars for years, but for some reason as soon as people hear that Google is developing them its assumed they will be a reality in the near future. Likewise there is lots of talk about automation of jobs, which in a way is happening, yet at the same time we seem to be working harder for more hours than 20 years ago.
With you until that automation thing. The reason we work harder is, most jobs are automated. The remaining ones are paid a lot, so they try to pack in as much as they can to make the whole process cheaper. They'll automate these jobs too as soon as they can. Upshot: if you have a job, you're working harder because automation.
Thats a very simplistic view and you seem very sure of it. (Plus in the there are a lot more crappy McJob's, so your point about the remianing jobs being highly paid doesn't really seem true).
We haven't seen flying cars, and there is no expectation for them in the future despite what we all expected years ago.
Have read of David Graeber's "The Utopia of Rules". As he correctly points out there is a hell of a lot more beurecracy and form filling for almost everything these days. That's a large part of where the extra work comes from.
Re: Self driving cars crash five times as much as regular ones
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
With you until that automation thing. The reason we work harder is, most jobs are automated. The remaining ones are paid a lot, so they try to pack in as much as they can to make the whole process cheaper. They'll automate these jobs too as soon as they can. Upshot: if you have a job, you're working harder because automation.
Thats a very simplistic view and you seem very sure of it. (Plus in the there are a lot more crappy McJob's, so your point about the remianing jobs being highly paid doesn't really seem true). We haven't seen flying cars, and there is no expectation for them in the future despite what we all expected years ago. Have read of David Graeber's "The Utopia of Rules". As he correctly points out there is a hell of a lot mor…
How about not guessing and reading the statistics:
http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/515926/how-tec...
Re: Self driving cars crash five times as much as regular ones
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
With you until that automation thing. The reason we work harder is, most jobs are automated. The remaining ones are paid a lot, so they try to pack in as much as they can to make the whole process cheaper. They'll automate these jobs too as soon as they can. Upshot: if you have a job, you're working harder because automation.
Thats a very simplistic view and you seem very sure of it. (Plus in the there are a lot more crappy McJob's, so your point about the remianing jobs being highly paid doesn't really seem true). We haven't seen flying cars, and there is no expectation for them in the future despite what we all expected years ago. Have read of David Graeber's "The Utopia of Rules". As he correctly points out there is a hell of a lot mor…
Obligatory Graeber takedown links:
http://www.annleckie.com/2013/02/24/debt/
http://www.businessweek.com/finance/occupy-wall-street/archi...
Re: Self driving cars crash five times as much as regular ones
#9IMHO autonomous driving systems still do not mix well with humans on the road. Could even say they are not compatible with each other. With how things have been going, soon we would have systems predicting behavior of human driver for safer driving. But by then, roads will have humans, systems predicting human behavior and systems released between the two without prediction.
I am of a similar opinion. People have been talking about self driving cars for years, but for some reason as soon as people hear that Google is developing them its assumed they will be a reality in the near future. Likewise there is lots of talk about automation of jobs, which in a way is happening, yet at the same time we seem to be working harder for more hours than 20 years ago.
Re: Self driving cars crash five times as much as regular ones
#10> Still, in spite of the self-driving cars’ high accident rate, the University of Michigan study did not contradict the conclusions of Google GOOG 0.56% and the DMV: The authors agreed that self-driving cars were not to blame in any of their crashes That's little consolation when you've just crashed. And it basically translates in that they're not very good (compared to humans) in handling active crisis situations on…
https://www.vox.com/technology/2015/10/30/9640230/self-drivi...
"Most of the accidents happened because another vehicle rear-ended the self-driving car. Self-driving cars have not been involved in any head-on collisions, and crashes involving self-driving cars were less likely to cause injuries than crashes involving conventional vehicles — just two out of 11 crashes led to injuries, compared with 28 percent of conventional vehicles."
It's hard to say "you've crashed" when you've been rear-ended.