Dell, EMC, HP, Cisco are the walking dead
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#2Fucked by Cloud and Fucked by Mobile are also apt terms to describe privacy...
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#3I read somewhere that the cloud is just someone's else computer. At least in the business I am working with that would never be allowed so if there is a cloud to be had it will be on premises, which may keep these so-called walking dead lumbering for quite some time.
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#4It could take a while yet before all companies big and small start using the cloud to its full potential though ... in my experience people in management are usually against it, citing data security issues.
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#5I read somewhere that the cloud is just someone's else computer. At least in the business I am working with that would never be allowed so if there is a cloud to be had it will be on premises, which may keep these so-called walking dead lumbering for quite some time.
Yes, there are plenty of businesses which would never put their data on someone else's servers.
Also, you should never underestimate corporate inertia. Switching to a new system is immensely expensive, for many companies it won't happen, ever. Just look how many companies are still using decade old hardware and scour ebay for replacement 286 processors.
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#6The magic cloud. Good thing it is made of fairy dust rather than commodity servers and network equipment or Dell and Cisco might be around forever providing those things.
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#7This is such a perception skewed by Silicon-Valley-Syndrome.
This is how the rest of the world works -- I run an import/export business and have to manage logistics. It doesn't matter what industry, it could be crude oil or widgets from China at half a penny a piece. It's my job as CIO to choose an implementation.
I'm going to choose SAP or Dynamics (or one of the handful of other ERP's with name recognition) on DB2 or Oracle. I'm going to store my data on EMC dual array filers for HA and pay the tax. Why? Because if I choose node.js and MongoDB to run my 3 warehouses and the system goes down, I'm getting voted out next board meeting. If my SAP R/3 on IBM hardware goes down, they'll do the dance and at least fly some people out to retain their image keeping your job effectively safe.
Banks aren't going to move over from z/OS anytime soon. I don't want my dialysis machine to be running on Riak.
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#8Wtf is this article talking about?
Microsoft fucked because they have Windows on 95% of computers?
Agh, i'm too exasperated to continue my train of thought. Yes, everybody is fucked because of Facebook and Google and MongoDB.
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#9It could take a while yet before all companies big and small start using the cloud to its full potential though ... in my experience people in management are usually against it, citing data security issues.
You'd be surprised. I've contracted for the some 3 letter federal agencies and they're alright with certain material being hosted in the cloud. (1) We didn't use AWS but they were fine with standard RSA keys. MS/IBM realizes the discomfort management has though, and addresses it with "partial virtualization" solutions.
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#10First thing I thought when reading the headline was 'so is Oracle'. Glad it's mentioned in the article.
AWS is absolutely killing it. Every release cycle, they put out quality products that directly attack Oracle. And, Oracle is in the bad position of having to eat their existing profitable business lines to compete.
Now, of course, cloud isn't here yet. There are certainly lots of issues around security, auditing, privacy, data ownership, etc. But, the trend is accelerating. Why? Because the cloud is so much cheaper. Why maintain and manage your own data center and infrastructure for millions of dollars when you can reliably outsource for a fraction?
I used to do a lot of work in the utility industry. I remember years ago giving a presentation on the cloud. The audience was passionate that it'd never, ever happen to them. They were extremely protective of their data. But, then I slowly saw it happening anyway. It crept in slowly. The first to go were the lowest risk systems. Then, the next lowest risk systems. Then, the next.
The incumbents will hold position for a long time to come, propped up mainly by government spending, hellishly long sales cycles, a corporate aversion to micro products, and FUD. They have plenty of time to catch up. But will they? That's the question. Unless oracle is actively researching new cloud platforms (and I'm guessing they are), they're going to be in pain in 5 years. Corporations that don't move to the cloud will be in a cost disadvantage.
On the other hand, serious work needs to be done to overcome the severe limitations of the current cloud. Lots of certification and auditing and risk assessments and SLAs need to happen.