Perforce introduces GitSwarm

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Post by wdding » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 2:30 PM UTC

Perforce introduces GitSwarm
perforce.com

Re: Perforce introduces GitSwarm

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Post by Roboprog » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 3:47 PM UTC

What value does this add, other than perhaps supporting a proprietary build & deploy system already paid for built around Perforce??? (is the latter a feature, or a bug?)

Every commercial revision control system I have ever used (ClearCase; SourceSafe; MKS Source Integrity; Serena VM aka PVCS) has always been much more of a PITA than CVS / SVN / Git. So, yeah, I'm very skeptical.

Re: Perforce introduces GitSwarm

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Post by theonewolf » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 3:55 PM UTC

Update: They do cite GitLab. Now I guess my confusion as a GitLab user is they don't sell me on what is new/differentiate their customized offering.

This product looks like a poorly rebranded GitLab.

Why don't they cite GitLab as the front-end web application/real workhorse here?

Re: Perforce introduces GitSwarm

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Post by migkatr » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 3:57 PM UTC

theonewolf wrote: post #3

Update: They do cite GitLab. Now I guess my confusion as a GitLab user is they don't sell me on what is new/differentiate their customized offering. This product looks like a poorly rebranded GitLab. Why don't they cite GitLab as the front-end web application/real workhorse here?

They do, "GitSwarm is where developer preferences meet enterprise needs. Based on the popular GitLab collaboration suite ..."

Re: Perforce introduces GitSwarm

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Post by vermooten » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 3:57 PM UTC

too little too late

But I do feel sorry for the telesales guy who is forced to call me every 6 months to see if I want to use Perforce.

Re: Perforce introduces GitSwarm

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Post by baconner » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 3:59 PM UTC

First tfs, now perforce. The prevalence of git is clearly putting a lot of pressure on "enterprise" source control systems. It makes a lot of sense to just co-opt it and pull it into the rest of their ecosystem.

At my org we've been trying to move towards an oss style pull request flow for tools and infrastructure projects but meeting a little resistance because "not enterprise." Getting that workflow into one of these systems really unsticks the problem.

Re: Perforce introduces GitSwarm

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Post by dahart » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 4:00 PM UTC

Roboprog wrote: post #2

What value does this add, other than perhaps supporting a proprietary build & deploy system already paid for built around Perforce??? (is the latter a feature, or a bug?) Every commercial revision control system I have ever used (ClearCase; SourceSafe; MKS Source Integrity; Serena VM aka PVCS) has always been much more of a PITA than CVS / SVN / Git. So, yeah, I'm very skeptical.

I had the same skeptical question in my head while reading the landing page / ad.

But, I will say I super miss P4's 'timeline'. I haven't used Perforce tools for many years now, but last time I did it was way way easier & faster to figure out who wrote a line of code than it is in git today. And overall, the UI was much better then than any git based UI is today. So, it might be hard for them to explain to git users, but personally, I'm open to the possibility they have some value added.

Re: Perforce introduces GitSwarm

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 4:02 PM UTC

theonewolf wrote: post #3

Update: They do cite GitLab. Now I guess my confusion as a GitLab user is they don't sell me on what is new/differentiate their customized offering. This product looks like a poorly rebranded GitLab. Why don't they cite GitLab as the front-end web application/real workhorse here?

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Re: Perforce introduces GitSwarm

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Post by theonewolf » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 4:03 PM UTC

baconner wrote: post #6

First tfs, now perforce. The prevalence of git is clearly putting a lot of pressure on "enterprise" source control systems. It makes a lot of sense to just co-opt it and pull it into the rest of their ecosystem. At my org we've been trying to move towards an oss style pull request flow for tools and infrastructure projects but meeting a little resistance because "not enterprise." Getting that workflow into one of the…

Oh I see, so this might be an "Enterprise in" and that's the "key feature." Not that I should expect a lot more on top of Git + GitLab that isn't already there.

Re: Perforce introduces GitSwarm

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Post by theonewolf » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 4:04 PM UTC

migkatr wrote: post #4

theonewolf wrote: post #3

Update: They do cite GitLab. Now I guess my confusion as a GitLab user is they don't sell me on what is new/differentiate their customized offering. This product looks like a poorly rebranded GitLab. Why don't they cite GitLab as the front-end web application/real workhorse here?

They do, "GitSwarm is where developer preferences meet enterprise needs. Based on the popular GitLab collaboration suite ..."

I see. I understand the problem they're solving now.

Bringing Git + more agile development flows into the Enterprise.