The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out

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Post by nkurz » Fri, Oct 02, 2015, 4:59 PM UTC

The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out
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Re: The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out

#2

Post by jbob2000 » Fri, Oct 02, 2015, 5:49 PM UTC

Police say it's the bikers, bikers say it's the police. I don't trust either of them.

Re: The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out

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Post by junto » Fri, Oct 02, 2015, 6:25 PM UTC

Drugs, prostitution, money laundering, violence and protection rackets. I really don't think that we should have a problem with the removal of such people from our society.

Re: The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out

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Post by kasey_junk » Fri, Oct 02, 2015, 6:27 PM UTC

junto wrote: post #3

Drugs, prostitution, money laundering, violence and protection rackets. I really don't think that we should have a problem with the removal of such people from our society.

And what about folks having a hamburger at a restaurant that apparently didn't do anything?

Re: The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out

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Post by scott_karana » Fri, Oct 02, 2015, 6:29 PM UTC

junto wrote: post #3

Drugs, prostitution, money laundering, violence and protection rackets. I really don't think that we should have a problem with the removal of such people from our society.

None of those things were actually occurring here: the shootout happened at a sports bar.

Re: The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out

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Post by nickbauman » Fri, Oct 02, 2015, 6:30 PM UTC

Gangs form around an economy. In the case of OMGs, the economy is drug and human trafficking, extortion, contract slaying and various other illicit businesses. Many OMGs are made up of a large percentage of ex military, with the USMC highly represented. Ditto for police forces, maybe not as much USMC. Considering how many soldiers we have, it's no surprise that OMGs are on the rise. You can thank the GWoT for that. They fight over economic power, often expressed as turf wars. So those are the dots. It's not hard to connect them.

The bottom line is three gangs met that day. Two of them without an official mandate.

Re: The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out

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Post by nickbauman » Fri, Oct 02, 2015, 6:31 PM UTC

scott_karana wrote: post #5

junto wrote: post #3

Drugs, prostitution, money laundering, violence and protection rackets. I really don't think that we should have a problem with the removal of such people from our society.

None of those things were actually occurring here : the shootout happened at a sports bar.

Which means it was a turf war ultimately.

Re: The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out

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Post by kazinator » Fri, Oct 02, 2015, 6:34 PM UTC

kasey_junk wrote: post #4

junto wrote: post #3

Drugs, prostitution, money laundering, violence and protection rackets. I really don't think that we should have a problem with the removal of such people from our society.

And what about folks having a hamburger at a restaurant that apparently didn't do anything?

They can ... stay in society?

Apparent trick questions make me nervous.

Re: The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out

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Post by scott_karana » Fri, Oct 02, 2015, 6:36 PM UTC

nickbauman wrote: post #7

scott_karana wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of those things were actually occurring here : the shootout happened at a sports bar.

Which means it was a turf war ultimately.

Did you read the article? It could just as well have been police-aggravated, or a combination of the two.

Re: The Texas Biker Gang Shoot-Out

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Post by kasey_junk » Fri, Oct 02, 2015, 6:40 PM UTC

kazinator wrote: post #8

kasey_junk wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what about folks having a hamburger at a restaurant that apparently didn't do anything?

They can ... stay in society? Apparent trick questions make me nervous.

All 177 people who were at that restaurant were charged with the same thing, even though there is no evidence that they were involved. Like literally the people hiding in the bathroom were charged the same as the people shooting out front.

I'm wondering what those folks did to deserve removal from society without question.