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Google and Microsoft make patent peace

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Re: Google and Microsoft make patent peace

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"What we do know is that Microsoft makes approximately $3.4-billion a year from its Android patent licening deals. " [sic]

I guess this might be good news for Google?

From my perspective, patents are a toxic drain on morale/intelligence/innovation that we have no hope of curtailing in my lifetime.

Re: Google and Microsoft make patent peace

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post #2

"What we do know is that Microsoft makes approximately $3.4-billion a year from its Android patent licening deals. " [sic] I guess this might be good news for Google? From my perspective, patents are a toxic drain on morale/intelligence/innovation that we have no hope of curtailing in my lifetime.

Seriously. It sounds a lot like a "we were here first" shakedown.

Re: Google and Microsoft make patent peace

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> Earlier this week, Microsoft re-signed an Android patent-protection pact with I-O Data for an undisclosed amount.

You don't say? A patent protection pact. So they don't even try to hide the fact that it was a mafia-style protection racket all along now?

"Such a nice business you got there. You wouldn't want it to be dragged in Court and lose millions or hundreds of millions of dollars? Why not just pay us this tiny $5 fee per phone, forever, instead, for an OS we never participated in creating?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket

Re: Google and Microsoft make patent peace

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TFA (perhaps unsurprisingly) does not mention this particular Microsoft-Google case:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/appeals-court-uph...

Of all the patent lawsuits that happened in all the smartphone wars that nobody won, this was the only case where a company was actually sanctioned for, essentially, abusing patents. And this happened on Google's watch. For all the rhetoric Google spewed about how their competitors were abusing patents, ironic that they were the one company that was actually found to be a bad actor. I always thought Google for too much of a free pass on that one.

Interestingly the Ars article I linked does not mention Google at all. Guess it's not so surprising they got a free pass.

Re: Google and Microsoft make patent peace

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Definitely a move in the right direction. Software companies have operated with a war mentality for too long, despite their common interests. They trade employees pretty often too, exposed no-poaching agreements aside. Competition isn't going away any time soon, but I think everyone appreciates more interoperability and cooperation. Will the Internet communities following them be able to follow this example?

Re: Google and Microsoft make patent peace

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post #2

"What we do know is that Microsoft makes approximately $3.4-billion a year from its Android patent licening deals. " [sic] I guess this might be good news for Google? From my perspective, patents are a toxic drain on morale/intelligence/innovation that we have no hope of curtailing in my lifetime.

It would be helpful to augment your perspective with multiple studies about patents based on empirical data. The situation week not appear so gloomy then, though it's certainly very complex.

Re: Google and Microsoft make patent peace

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TFA (perhaps unsurprisingly) does not mention this particular Microsoft-Google case: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/appeals-court-uph... Of all the patent lawsuits that happened in all the smartphone wars that nobody won, this was the only case where a company was actually sanctioned for, essentially, abusing patents. And this happened on Google's watch. For all the rhetoric Google spewed about how their…

Did you link the right article - the referenced article references a court case between Motorola and Microsoft - one that started before Google's acquisition of Moto.

It seems the patent battle was Microsoft abuse of its own patents to take a percentage of all Android sales (and Moto's revenue).

Edit: Motorola vs Microsoft, not Google

Re: Google and Microsoft make patent peace

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TFA (perhaps unsurprisingly) does not mention this particular Microsoft-Google case: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/appeals-court-uph... Of all the patent lawsuits that happened in all the smartphone wars that nobody won, this was the only case where a company was actually sanctioned for, essentially, abusing patents. And this happened on Google's watch. For all the rhetoric Google spewed about how their…

Did you link the right article - the referenced article references a court case between Motorola and Microsoft - one that started before Google's acquisition of Moto. It seems the patent battle was Microsoft abuse of its own patents to take a percentage of all Android sales (and Moto's revenue). Edit: Motorola vs Microsoft, not Google

> the referenced article references a court case between Motorola and Google

I think you mean Motorola and Microsoft.

Re: Google and Microsoft make patent peace

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post #6

Definitely a move in the right direction. Software companies have operated with a war mentality for too long, despite their common interests. They trade employees pretty often too, exposed no-poaching agreements aside. Competition isn't going away any time soon, but I think everyone appreciates more interoperability and cooperation. Will the Internet communities following them be able to follow this example?

I find it the opposite. In my perception, the patent hatched buried was actually a good thing for everyone else, because the patents were fought against (with the likely outcome to be revoked as non-patentable bullshit that software patents are). With that peace treaty, nothing is against those patents and they are actually strengthened, which is not something to celebrate.

Of course, would the announcement contain something about dropping the patents (and not the lawsuits), my opinion would be surely different. But all I've read is that two giants won't touch each other and it's not something I do care about.

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