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The 'Israelification' of airports: High security, little bother

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Re: The 'Israelification' of airports: High security, little bother

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The bigger tragedy is that Israel has been living in a state of war for 50 years. A little more effort toward peace and less toward locking down society and we'd all be better off.

Unfortunately, world peace has never been attainable. Ask History.

Re: The 'Israelification' of airports: High security, little bother

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The bigger tragedy is that Israel has been living in a state of war for 50 years. A little more effort toward peace and less toward locking down society and we'd all be better off.

I was born in Israel and lived there all my life till 2006. Ironically, it was often the efforts towards peace that escalated violence: The 1992 Oslo Accords were followed by the suicide bus bombings of the 90s, the 2000 Camp David summit resulted in the suicide cafe/mall/club/etc bombings of the early 00s, the withdrawal from Gaza facilitated Hamas' rise to power and so on.

All this isn't to turn this to a yet another online Mid East flame war, nor to claim that Israel doesn't share the blame for what's happening or that Palestinians aren't suffering at least as badly - just to note that anyone from a conflict area will tell you life are much more complicated than "a little more effort towards peace" ;)

Re: The 'Israelification' of airports: High security, little bother

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The bigger tragedy is that Israel has been living in a state of war for 50 years. A little more effort toward peace and less toward locking down society and we'd all be better off.

Your comment is completely irrelevant. Did you even read the article? "Israelification" is being presented as a goal, not as a criticism.

Re: The 'Israelification' of airports: High security, little bother

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The procedural aspects of this sound good - multiple rings of security, compartmentalization of risk, etc. - but I have to wonder how well systems so dependent on the intelligence and intuition of individual screeners would work in North America.

It wouldn't. How many planes is El Al actually flying? How many planes do the majors in the US fly? This idea does not scale. It puts society on the wrong end of the cost equation.

Re: The 'Israelification' of airports: High security, little bother

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The procedural aspects of this sound good - multiple rings of security, compartmentalization of risk, etc. - but I have to wonder how well systems so dependent on the intelligence and intuition of individual screeners would work in North America.

It wouldn't. How many planes is El Al actually flying? How many planes do the majors in the US fly? This idea does not scale. It puts society on the wrong end of the cost equation.

Also note that Shin Bet security levels require El Al to spend on the order of $100million/year to secure those 37 airplanes - and, when you are subjected to "Selective Screening" - you aren't dealing with the TSA and their seeming reluctance to actually _search_ you during a pat down.

[edit: I'd love to know what percentage of Muslims are subjected to "Selective Screening" on El Al flights. The TSA/United States can't get away with the same type of behavior that Israel can get away with. We have to treat everyone the same to avoid the taint of "Profiling"]

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