No, Mark Cuban, this tech bubble is not worse than 2000
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#3The entire of finance is linked. Those trading in the normal world of finance typically trade in more than one market. (bitcoin isn't normal, well not until recently, however the total daily trades are tiny)
If the entire angel market were to collapse as described it would cause a "contagion" that would whirl around the world.
Take for example uber with its stupidly large valuation. Real banks have invested real money into that company. Currently its horrendously over valued. Its a taxi company with an app. The only reason they are successful is that they have enough cash to under cut the world. They also have an obnoxiously selfish culture that generates PR via controversy.
If their credit ability were to be hampered, they would not be able to expand. This means they'd not be able to defy gravity and be forced to make a profit on the existing markets they have. cue massive implosion, all taxi services start to consolidate.
Once that happens it;ll start to affect other tech stocks and private investment.
once one or two unicorns fail because their underlying buisness model fails, it will lead to a total re-evaluation of credit for the entire tech industry.
This then filters into general stock. Add that to the wobbles from china, brazil, low price of oil and commodities and you have a nice crash.
The key thing here is that everything is interconnected. Like a open office if someone gets the plague, it spreads like wild fire.
Re: No, Mark Cuban, this tech bubble is not worse than 2000
#4They say their generous worst case calculation of losses is $550 billion, based off of the number of angel investors, throwing out a 1 million number against each, and then valuing companies at $327 billion.
They then compare that to the losses in NASDAQ of 5 trillion. That is based on the peak of 6.7 to the low of 1.6.
Why does the chart in the article only show a peak of about 5 trillion, which would cut the losses from about 5 trillion to to about 3.4 trillion?
Isn't it wrong to compare the estimate of angel investors and valuations against NASDAQ? Why not compare NASDAQ against NASDAQ? To use their style of comparing against extremes, back in 2009 we hit a low of 1.29. In July we hit a high of about 5.2. If those gains were erased, wouldn't we take a loss of about 3.91 trillion, which is a little larger than their chart showed for the dotcom crash?
Am I missing something, or is this article making a misleading comparison?
EDIT: Reading about the NASDAQ composite index on Wikipedia, it says that the index was changed in 2014, and the composition is very different then it was in 2000. So, even NASDAQ to NASDAQ may not work as a comparison, unless it can be recalculated the same way, and even then, other factors such as inflation should probably be factored in, since it was substantial. (The CPI shows $1 from 2000 is worth $1.39 in 2015 dollars.)
EDIT #2: After researching a bit, I think the difference between their chart showing a loss of 3.91 and them saying 5 might be because the 5 trillion is in terms of market cap. On August 18th we were at 9.15 billion, but I don't have a good source for historical market cap data. From the look of things, I'm guessing the losses off our recent peaks to the 2009 lows would be larger than the dotcom losses, but I'd love to hear from anyone who better understands these things.
Re: No, Mark Cuban, this tech bubble is not worse than 2000
#51. When/If the unicorns kick the bucket they will take a lot of other companies with them.
2. There are dozens of smaller startups for every unicorn. These smaller numbers add up.
3. A lot of auxiliary services are based around the startups - advertising, infrastructure, etc. There will be a ripple effect if the bubble bursts.
Re: No, Mark Cuban, this tech bubble is not worse than 2000
#6I'm a little confused about the way the article is using numbers. They say their generous worst case calculation of losses is $550 billion, based off of the number of angel investors, throwing out a 1 million number against each, and then valuing companies at $327 billion. They then compare that to the losses in NASDAQ of 5 trillion. That is based on the peak of 6.7 to the low of 1.6. Why does the chart in the articl…
I think the potential for losses is ostensibly much larger in the proposed "worst" case scenario; That being said, I don't think it's a very plausible outcome.
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#7Broadcast.com wasn't Uber. It wasn't even a Groupon
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#9Mark Cuban: "In the tech bubble it was Broadcast.com, AOL, Netscape, etc. Today its, Uber, Twitter, Facebook, etc." Broadcast.com wasn't Uber. It wasn't even a Groupon
Re: No, Mark Cuban, this tech bubble is not worse than 2000
#10I would suggest that you are missing the true meaning of "shitting the bed" The entire of finance is linked. Those trading in the normal world of finance typically trade in more than one market. (bitcoin isn't normal, well not until recently, however the total daily trades are tiny) If the entire angel market were to collapse as described it would cause a "contagion" that would whirl around the world. Take for exampl…