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Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need?

Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand.

Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park.

Yet, where's the big time Hollywood treatment? Christian Bale as Tesla would work, with a good script and big time visuals spanning the 60 odd years of his life and work. Not cool enough?

The best we have is The Prestige. Great movie, but Tesla is not the focus, only a very interesting side story in that otherwise fictitious world.

FFS Hollywood, get it done! The man had visions of AC motors and dreams of generators at the base of Niagara Falls. Then he moves to America and actually achieves those dreams against all odds.

End of rant. Now, where were we? Ah yes, slow clapping Steve Jobs, the man, the genius. When he gets kicked out of Apple, it truly knifed me in the soul. This movie will be the best thing since we saw one man code Facebook out of nothing but PHP, computers and existing network infrastructure. That too, warmed the cockles.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

  Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie?
Because we have yet to make one. How do you and your friends like making movies?

  Yet, where's the big time Hollywood treatment?
That isn't a story they want to tell. __period__ Why would they? What benefit of mass entertainment would it serve? Hint: Look at the etymology of `entertain`.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

>How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need?

I know, and mostly agree with your sentiment. But I think this one has been in the pipeline for a good while (four years [0]), and is probably the one I've been waiting for because of the Boyle/Sorkin collaboration. The others seemed rushed out just to cash in on Job's life.

That said I'm still particularly fond of "Pirates of Silicon Valley"[1], I thought Noah Wiley as a younger Jobs was a fairly good effort..

[0]: http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/10/25/steve-jobs-movie-coul...

[1]: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168122

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? Because we have yet to make one. How do you and your friends like making movies? Yet, where's the big time Hollywood treatment? That isn't a story they want to tell. __period__ Why would they? What benefit of mass entertainment would it serve? Hint: Look at the etymology of `entertain`.

> "That isn't a story they want to tell. __period__ Why would they? What benefit of mass entertainment would it serve? Hint: Look at the etymology of `entertain`."

Tesla was an interesting character and had an interesting life. If you're concerned about whether his story could be dramatised, it's worth remembering we had films about Stephen Hawking and Alan Turing last year, both of which were successful at the box office. I see no reason why we couldn't do the same for Tesla.

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How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

> FFS Hollywood, get it done! The man had visions of AC motors and dreams of generators at the base of Niagara Falls. Then he moves to America and actually achieves those dreams against all odds.

I don't know a whole lot about Tesla's life, but those don't particularly strike me as elements of a great / saleable screenplay. Not that that necessarily matters, the established way around that is to just make shit up. I guess what I am saying is, be careful what you wish for.

btw in practice "big time visuals" means "spending a lot of money on a biography of somebody only a few nerds are interested in". It's not necessarily a selling point.

Edit: A Tesla / Edison feud movie in the style or Rocky or Frost/Nixon might work. You'd have to change the ending obviously.

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How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

Sadly, that's how it works. I felt that death of D. Ritchie was overshadowed by that of S. Jobs. It seems that some heroes have to accept the role of doing the "dirty" work.

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Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? Because we have yet to make one. How do you and your friends like making movies? Yet, where's the big time Hollywood treatment? That isn't a story they want to tell. __period__ Why would they? What benefit of mass entertainment would it serve? Hint: Look at the etymology of `entertain`.

> "That isn't a story they want to tell. __period__ Why would they? What benefit of mass entertainment would it serve? Hint: Look at the etymology of `entertain`." Tesla was an interesting character and had an interesting life. If you're concerned about whether his story could be dramatised, it's worth remembering we had films about Stephen Hawking and Alan Turing last year, both of which were successful at the box o…

The issue is as much "is there an established audience" as "could the story be dramatised". I probably have a biased perspective because Turing, Hawking and I are British, but my guess would be a lot more people at least recognise their names than would recognise Tesla's (aside from as an electric car).

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How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

Sadly, that's how it works. I felt that death of D. Ritchie was overshadowed by that of S. Jobs. It seems that some heroes have to accept the role of doing the "dirty" work.

I remember a meme going around that compared the two's achievements. Quite popular amongst programmers on Facebook. My response was something along the lines of everybody can understand Steve Job's achievements because he was a public-facing sales/showman. Dennis Ritchie's achievements certainly did help Job's achievements in a massive way, like any other publicly reknowned figure in computers as opposed to a reknowned figure in just the computing circle.

The problem is illustrated by when I explain unix and C to my mrs. Her eyes gloss over and I have to ask "I've lost you haven't I"?

It's a shame because emotionally I feel the injustice. I just know, logically, the reasons why. The tragedy is that I don't know a way to resolve the injustice.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Steve Jobs Movie

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How many Jobs/Apple movies do we need? Seems to be nothing more than cashing in on the iPhone generation's obsession and hype with one particular brand. Why don't we have a decent Tesla movie? His life and events surrounding his inventions are remarkable, truly engrossing. World-changing in a way that blows Apple Computers or any internal corporate bullshit story or personal Steve Jobs issues out of the park. Yet, wh…

Any Tesla movie would probably be depressing as fuck.

Kid genius comes to America to work for his hero, but decides to strike out on his own to change the world after a disagreement over money. Ends up failing miserably and being crushed by his former hero and employer. Slowly goes insane and dies poor and largely forgotten.

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