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Obama Administration Supports Privacy-Invasive “Cybersecurity” Bill

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Its pretty clear at this point that every Western government wants to be able to spy on its own citizens as thoroughly as possible while dressing it up as 'security'.

It is really quite sad how obviously transparent it is yet most people are indifferent. :/

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Its pretty clear at this point that every Western government wants to be able to spy on its own citizens as thoroughly as possible while dressing it up as 'security'. It is really quite sad how obviously transparent it is yet most people are indifferent. :/

Well, it /is/ "security" in their sense of the word. It isn't very /good/ security or very /effective/ but it's goal is indeed what it is claiming. They don't desire totalitarianism or anything.

Remember that a controlling government is a byproduct of giving governments control, not the actual goal of any individual or group within government (who merely want control to do a different thing). Nobody wants to be a bad guy, they genuinely think this is helpful. The road to hell and all that.

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Its pretty clear at this point that every Western government wants to be able to spy on its own citizens as thoroughly as possible while dressing it up as 'security'. It is really quite sad how obviously transparent it is yet most people are indifferent. :/

Well, it /is/ "security" in their sense of the word. It isn't very /good/ security or very /effective/ but it's goal is indeed what it is claiming. They don't desire totalitarianism or anything. Remember that a controlling government is a byproduct of giving governments control, not the actual goal of any individual or group within government (who merely want control to do a different thing). Nobody wants to be a bad…

Which is why it is our responsibility as citizens to limit the government's control.

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Its pretty clear at this point that every Western government wants to be able to spy on its own citizens as thoroughly as possible while dressing it up as 'security'. It is really quite sad how obviously transparent it is yet most people are indifferent. :/

Well, it /is/ "security" in their sense of the word. It isn't very /good/ security or very /effective/ but it's goal is indeed what it is claiming. They don't desire totalitarianism or anything. Remember that a controlling government is a byproduct of giving governments control, not the actual goal of any individual or group within government (who merely want control to do a different thing). Nobody wants to be a bad…

> Well, it /is/ "security" in their sense of the word. It isn't very /good/ security or very /effective/ but it's goal is indeed what it is claiming. They don't desire totalitarianism or anything.

It is the exact opposite of security precisely because they put all the eggs in one basket with security [frankly] on par with some of the shittiest non-security in the private sector. They don't even meet their own standards.

We might as well just fedex hard drives to anyone who is our enemy.

Re: Obama Administration Supports Privacy-Invasive “Cybersecurity” Bill

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Many people who use the internet see themselves as global citizens.

The idea of a modern nation state exists due to the weakening of religion and tribalism and creation of nationalism.

The internet is very threatening to nationalistic values - just like scientific thinking was to religion - and a weakening of nationalism is the ultimate threat to all world government.

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