Live data from Hacker News

DRM Fiasco Ruins James Cameron’s Avatar 3D Preview

torrentfreak.com

1–10 of 16 posts

Re: DRM Fiasco Ruins James Cameron’s Avatar 3D Preview

#2
Just to make this even more explicit than it was in the article: DRM had more effect on legitimate viewers than on pirates.[1]

Of all the possible snarky comments to make (and there are many), I'm going to settle for this one: maybe we really are better off not encrypting those predator drones.

[1] To be fair, some legitimate users and some pirates, and I don't know where they'll get the 3-d glasses.

Re: DRM Fiasco Ruins James Cameron’s Avatar 3D Preview

#5
post #2

Just to make this even more explicit than it was in the article: DRM had more effect on legitimate viewers than on pirates.[1] Of all the possible snarky comments to make (and there are many), I'm going to settle for this one: maybe we really are better off not encrypting those predator drones. [1] To be fair, some legitimate users and some pirates, and I don't know where they'll get the 3-d glasses.

Which really goes to highlight the biggest flaw with DRM: It's an additional cost to add something that will not, under any circumstances, improve the customer's experience.

It's one thing to have a black market providing illicit versions of a product, but when the black market provides a superior product at lower cost with, often, greater convenience? Something that has gone horribly, terribly wrong.

Re: DRM Fiasco Ruins James Cameron’s Avatar 3D Preview

#7
This isn't digital rights management, it's basic operational security. A security failure damaged their preview. Having intense security controls on one of the most eagerly awaited movie premiers of all time is not unreasonable and it's not about "rights"; in fact, it may simply be about the production company not getting sued by its investors.

Re: DRM Fiasco Ruins James Cameron’s Avatar 3D Preview

#8
post #5
post #2

Just to make this even more explicit than it was in the article: DRM had more effect on legitimate viewers than on pirates.[1] Of all the possible snarky comments to make (and there are many), I'm going to settle for this one: maybe we really are better off not encrypting those predator drones. [1] To be fair, some legitimate users and some pirates, and I don't know where they'll get the 3-d glasses.

Which really goes to highlight the biggest flaw with DRM: It's an additional cost to add something that will not, under any circumstances, improve the customer's experience. It's one thing to have a black market providing illicit versions of a product, but when the black market provides a superior product at lower cost with, often, greater convenience ? Something that has gone horribly, terribly wrong.

I have never gotten the digital copies, that come with some blu ray movies, to work.

I have to turn around and use a torrent. I feel smug about it too. Serves them right.

Re: DRM Fiasco Ruins James Cameron’s Avatar 3D Preview

#9
post #7

This isn't digital rights management, it's basic operational security. A security failure damaged their preview. Having intense security controls on one of the most eagerly awaited movie premiers of all time is not unreasonable and it's not about "rights"; in fact, it may simply be about the production company not getting sued by its investors.

I disagree, I think it's exactly DRM. It's not DRM that normal consumers ever interact with though (except second hand by seeing the movie, or not seeing the movie as the case may be) but it's rights management none the less. From the failure modes it doesn't sound like there was any security above and beyond the standard DCinema encryption.

Re: DRM Fiasco Ruins James Cameron’s Avatar 3D Preview

#10
post #7

This isn't digital rights management, it's basic operational security. A security failure damaged their preview. Having intense security controls on one of the most eagerly awaited movie premiers of all time is not unreasonable and it's not about "rights"; in fact, it may simply be about the production company not getting sued by its investors.

I disagree, I think it's exactly DRM. It's not DRM that normal consumers ever interact with though (except second hand by seeing the movie, or not seeing the movie as the case may be) but it's rights management none the less. From the failure modes it doesn't sound like there was any security above and beyond the standard DCinema encryption.

Cinemas have never had "ownership" over the movies they run. Do you not notice the slippery slope your argument is on? Either you're dignifying the concept of DRM, and acknowledging that there are times it's valuable, or it's not DRM.
Post reply on HN