Rush to Put Death Records Online Lets Anyone be 'Killed'

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Post by hackinsider » Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 3:05 PM UTC

Rush to Put Death Records Online Lets Anyone be 'Killed'
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Post by ChuckMcM » Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 3:34 PM UTC

While humorous (getting a death certificate for someone who isn't really dead) the money is in the virtual births. I don't doubt for a minute there are entrepreneurs who use that to create new identities for people or fake dependents (welfare fraud).

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Post by fredgrott » Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 3:43 PM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

While humorous (getting a death certificate for someone who isn't really dead) the money is in the virtual births. I don't doubt for a minute there are entrepreneurs who use that to create new identities for people or fake dependents (welfare fraud).

no the real money is fake addresses...in that a postal address is a lazy format not verified until something is sent.

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Post by dws » Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 3:56 PM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

While humorous (getting a death certificate for someone who isn't really dead) the money is in the virtual births. I don't doubt for a minute there are entrepreneurs who use that to create new identities for people or fake dependents (welfare fraud).

It's less than humorous. Once bogus data declaring you dead works its way into the system, credit cards get shut off, accounts get closed, and you're liable to have serious problems with your bank.

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Post by kuschku » Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 4:07 PM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

While humorous (getting a death certificate for someone who isn't really dead) the money is in the virtual births. I don't doubt for a minute there are entrepreneurs who use that to create new identities for people or fake dependents (welfare fraud).

Even better: You can create a death certificate for yourself, and create a birth certificate for yourself under a different name a few decades ago.

New identity, very cheaply and easily.

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Post by mschuster91 » Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 4:21 PM UTC

Well at least for virtual births, given the trend of fingerprint storage, once the real virtualized baby is of age or otherwise required to submit prints, the other identities are pretty much useless.

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Post by baldeagle » Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 4:23 PM UTC

Sounds like we're one sweet OS boot screen away from the movie 'Hackers'.

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Post by baldeagle » Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 4:23 PM UTC

Sounds like we're one sweet OS boot screen away from the movie 'Hackers'.

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Post by csense » Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 4:41 PM UTC

"The Baby Harvest: How virtual babies become the future of terrorist financing and money laundering."

Terrorists are killing and selling our babies! Sounds like over-the-top far-right US political rhetoric.

Re: Rush to Put Death Records Online Lets Anyone be 'Killed'

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Post by ChuckMcM » Sat, Aug 08, 2015, 4:43 PM UTC

dws wrote: post #4

ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

While humorous (getting a death certificate for someone who isn't really dead) the money is in the virtual births. I don't doubt for a minute there are entrepreneurs who use that to create new identities for people or fake dependents (welfare fraud).

It's less than humorous. Once bogus data declaring you dead works its way into the system, credit cards get shut off, accounts get closed, and you're liable to have serious problems with your bank.

Your correct, it isn't funny, but when the Social Security administration decided my wife's uncle was already dead and he needed to pay back benefits they sent, she had them talk to him on the phone, where they tried to explain to them that because he was dead he needed to payback excess benefits.