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Ask HN: Which JavaScript frameworks do you use?

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Post by wmw »

For my Bachelor Thesis i am doing all little research about the usage of webframeworks. The Thesis is about isomorph JavaScript based frameworks but i am also interested what else do you use. Please evaluate your framework under the following aspects: 1. Time needed for Learning the Framework (in Hours) 2. Overall Development Speed (0-3 Points, greater better) 3. Maintainability of the Code (0-3 Points, greater better) 4. Why did you choose that Framework?

I know its difficult to define or measure those things but it will get a helpful overview for my thesis. Thanks in advance for your Time! :)

Re: Ask HN: Which JavaScript frameworks do you use?

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Post by ramtatatam »

I'm not a javascript guru and there was a time I was reluctant to use any framework - such a luck we grow up from silly ideas :-)

jQuery: 1) 4 hours 2) 3 3) depending on code base, maintainability can be extremely easy but it can also be extremely spaghettti 4) cross-browser compatibility of client-side scripts that manipulate DOM

linked-in dust: 1) ~1 hour 2) 3 3) 3 4) cross-browser compatibility, small size, one of the fastest

jQuery-ui: 1) ~1 hour 2) 3 3) 3 4) cross-browser compatibility, granular control over what features I deploy

Re: Ask HN: Which JavaScript frameworks do you use?

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Post by kenbellows »

do you have a Google Form/Spreadsheet or anything similar set up for this, or are you planning to scrape the comments here later? Might be tough to filter out en masse the comments answering your questions from the strictly discussion comments, even at the top level, depending on response. You'd also probably get better responsiveness with an easy form for folks to fill out, especially considering the structure of the responses you want

Re: Ask HN: Which JavaScript frameworks do you use?

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Post by nazrak »

In my job we use Angular

1. It depends, you can make something quickly but when it comes debuging or make strange things you need a deep understanding of what is going on. I would say between 30 to 40 hours.

2. At first it's like 2.5, but when strange things start happening, it can slow to about 2.

3. I would say 2.4

4. It was really popular, has a lot of resources available and made development really easy.

Now for my personal projects I'm learning ReactJS

1. The framework is really easy, and it can take about 10 hours to learn it deeply. The difficult part is thinking the way they propose you with Flux. That can be as long as angular with 30 o 40 hours.

2. Productivity can be a little worse than angular with 2.0, but results are much better.

3. This is the best part. Although I haven't build a big project, at first sight it might seem this is the best part of react. I give it 3.0

4. Speed, control of what is going on in the views, popularity, the idea of having the possibility to easily port my apps to native with React Native, the tools such as browserify make even better.

I hope it helps you, sorry for my english.

Re: Ask HN: Which JavaScript frameworks do you use?

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Post by simulo »

Backbone 1. Learning is relatively easy (I can’t give Hours, for my first code I needed like 2h, for totally understanding the whole lib in depth (at least possible) probably 1 or 2 Months) 2. 1 (Relatively much Boilerplate code) 3. 1-2 (depends on your skills and if you use any extensions that help you structuring your code) 4. It is easy to understand and to extend. I work a lot with interactions like Drag/Drop, custom Widgets etc. Using those was a chore in other frameworks (and needed much binding code and/or extensions), in Backbone it can be just bridged to jQuery (UI).

Re: Ask HN: Which JavaScript frameworks do you use?

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Post by crabasa »

I think the self-reported data that you're going to get is going to be worthless. Anyone who says (for example) that they learned Angular in 3 hours probably didn't really learn Angular.

If I were you (and honestly I wish I was, I loved being a student) I'd focus much less on analyzing an arbitrary list of JS frameworks and instead turn my attention to questions like:

    Why are there so many frameworks in the first place?
    What problems are JS frameworks trying to solve?
    Why does it seems like new frameworks are constantly being produced? 
    Why can't any single framework achieve critical mass?
You might learn some very interesting things about the web as a platform and JavaScript as a language.

Re: Ask HN: Which JavaScript frameworks do you use?

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Post by nailer »

ractive. It's the best kept secret in web development.

Want a live binding, 2 way, super performant virtual DOM, that feels less like a framework and more like something that came with JavaScript?

    var binding = new Ractive({
      el: '.some-class',
      template: '
Hi there {{ name }}
 ',
      data: { name: 'Alex' }
    })
It's created and maintained by The Guardian interactive team.

http://www.ractivejs.org/

## Time needed for Learning the Framework (in Hours)

The basics take 30 seconds because almost everyone is familiar with handlebars/mustache templates, but 4 hours total.

Eg, ractive has promises for when stuff changes, and you'll have to decide how to load templates (eg, ES6 template strings, or browserify fs). Once you've done that there's not a lot to learn, which is great.

## Overall Development Speed (0-3 Points, greater better)

Development speed: 3. It's insanely fast to work with because it's simple.

## Maintainability of the Code (0-3 Points, greater better)

Maintainability: 3. it's small, so super readable.

## Why did you choose that Framework?

All of the above, plus the support side. It's been around for two years and everyone I know who's used it loves it.

Re: Ask HN: Which JavaScript frameworks do you use?

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Post by sharavsambuu »

EmberJS, once u learned it u will get enormous amount of productivity.

1. It took me month and documentation is sufficient well enough to learn it faster. (I'm slow at learning, of course learning speed is vary, depends on habit of people)

2. I would give point 3

3. also 3

4. reasons why I choose this framework are it's productivity, u will get good development habits, good patterns while using it and it's good ecosystem

sorry my bad english.

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