Hawaii Bans Non-Compete and Non-Solicit Clauses in High-Tech Employment
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Re: Hawaii Bans Non-Compete and Non-Solicit Clauses in High-Tech Employment
#2Lets see Illinois do this as well!
Re: Hawaii Bans Non-Compete and Non-Solicit Clauses in High-Tech Employment
#3Wish NY did the same. In NY they get to own all your ideas both at work and "off the clock."
Re: Hawaii Bans Non-Compete and Non-Solicit Clauses in High-Tech Employment
#4Wish NY did the same. In NY they get to own all your ideas both at work and "off the clock."
How the hell can that be legal? That would be the legal equivalent to a person working in a factory and doing the same stuff as hobby at home not owning the products he made at home.
Doesn’t this infringe at least a few universal human rights? o.O
Re: Hawaii Bans Non-Compete and Non-Solicit Clauses in High-Tech Employment
#5Wish NY did the same. In NY they get to own all your ideas both at work and "off the clock."
How the hell can that be legal? That would be the legal equivalent to a person working in a factory and doing the same stuff as hobby at home not owning the products he made at home. Doesn’t this infringe at least a few universal human rights? o.O
That pretty much defines most working relationships in the U.S. The employer-employee relationship is rooted in English Master-Servant common law.
Re: Hawaii Bans Non-Compete and Non-Solicit Clauses in High-Tech Employment
#6Wish NY did the same. In NY they get to own all your ideas both at work and "off the clock."
Are you serious? Do you have a source for that?
That sounds like working on a plantation. Everything you pick is your master's.
Re: Hawaii Bans Non-Compete and Non-Solicit Clauses in High-Tech Employment
#7My understanding is that if non-compete clauses are unreasonable then they they are generally unenforceable. As in if they put undue hardship on you finding employment elsewhere. It seems the exception is usually up at the senior leadership and C-level where strategic intelligence comes in to play. (joe/jane-coder not so much.)
Re: Hawaii Bans Non-Compete and Non-Solicit Clauses in High-Tech Employment
#8Wish NY did the same. In NY they get to own all your ideas both at work and "off the clock."
As I understand it, this just means they're allowed to require you to sign a contract saying that they own your "off the clock" work, not that they own it by default. Or is it different in NY?
Re: Hawaii Bans Non-Compete and Non-Solicit Clauses in High-Tech Employment
#9Wish NY did the same. In NY they get to own all your ideas both at work and "off the clock."
Note the post is about non-compete ("I won't go work for a company in the same market for X time") and non-solicit ("I won't convince my coworkers to come with me") clauses. IP assignment is separate.
Re: Hawaii Bans Non-Compete and Non-Solicit Clauses in High-Tech Employment
#10Wish NY did the same. In NY they get to own all your ideas both at work and "off the clock."
How the hell can that be legal? That would be the legal equivalent to a person working in a factory and doing the same stuff as hobby at home not owning the products he made at home. Doesn’t this infringe at least a few universal human rights? o.O
There's a big difference between hourly and salaried positions. It's harder to define "off the clock" when no one is actually clocking you in the first place.