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The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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"a racist", you haven't even read anything, that's straight defamation and a dumb take. And let's play along, why can't you trust a racist with your privacy?

> why can't you trust a racist with your privacy?

Isn't it obvious? They might use that data against you. Even asking such a naive question raises an eyebrow.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

#992
From the wikipedia article on the Örebro Party:

"Some key issues for the Örebro Party locally include strong secularism, a 30-hour workweek with retained pay, lowered wages for politicians, expanded social housing, abolishing preschool-fees, making public transport free of charge, ending taxpayer funding of what it sees as wasteful sculptures, monuments and art and introducing free dental care. Nationally the party has set out large-scale remigration, closing the Swedish borders to immigration, a stricter assimilation policy and ending taxes on energy and fuel as some of its key issues."

And the party leader has described himself as a Communist and Marxist.

What makes them far-right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Örebro_Party

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

#993
post #118

Hi, Mullvad has two owners, founders, and CEOs - Daniel Berntsson, and me, Fredrik Strömberg. All posts I've seen yesterday and today, including the newspaper articles, talk about Mullvad as if Daniel is the single owner, founder and CEO. It should be obvious that Daniel's private donation to a political party is not part of Mullvad's values or mission. If you have any questions, comments or concerns you're welcome t…

Fredrik, while acknowledging everything you said, the fact remains some of my money can end up empowering politics I find repugnant. If it were a small amount of money, it wouldn’t be an issue. If the politics at stake were less important, it wouldn’t be an issue. They’re not going to stop at immigration, look at other places in the world to see the future risk. Sorry, I was a paying and satisfied customer, and now I…

No offense, but you're being so dramatic for no reason. You're not that important, and it doesn't matter what you believe. Your comment just reeks of smugness and immaturity.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

#994
post #991

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"a racist", you haven't even read anything, that's straight defamation and a dumb take. And let's play along, why can't you trust a racist with your privacy?

> why can't you trust a racist with your privacy? Isn't it obvious? They might use that data against you. Even asking such a naive question raises an eyebrow.

Use what data? I literally don't see the correlation with trust and racism.

Can you be clear on the kind of data a "racist VPN owner" could use against me?

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

#995
post #313

Still waiting to cancel Big Tech for donating to Trump [0] and they donated more than a million+. So why haven't we cancelled Big Tech yet? [0] https://www.commoncause.org/articles/big-tech-is-donating-mi...

I wonder if it's because "we" are not an amorphous hive mind thinking face emoji

Or maybe most of the "we" here do not care to do it. (Because they pay your bills)

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

#996
post #797

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Thank you for everything you do Fredrik. Very happy to be a customer of a company that supports freedom and privacy for everyone regardless of views.

> that supports freedom ... for everyone Unless you happen to be of Somalian descent in Sweden. Then you should be ripped away from the only home you've ever known, indeed possibly the only country you've ever been in, and sent to a foreign country you have no citizenship in, where you have no home, don't understand the language, know no one, and be forced to try and survive.

This is entirely false, not every country is the USA. Sweden does not have birthright citizenship. Most Somalis and their children in Sweden are not Swedish citizens.

To add, they all retain their Somali citizenship.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

#997
post #797

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> that supports freedom ... for everyone Unless you happen to be of Somalian descent in Sweden. Then you should be ripped away from the only home you've ever known, indeed possibly the only country you've ever been in, and sent to a foreign country you have no citizenship in, where you have no home, don't understand the language, know no one, and be forced to try and survive.

This is entirely false, not every country is the USA. Sweden does not have birthright citizenship. Most Somalis and their children in Sweden are not Swedish citizens. To add, they all retain their Somali citizenship.

Nowhere did I say anything about them being Swedish citizens - though I'll note if that distinction mattered at all (it doesn't) "most" wouldn't be good enough.

I said they weren't necessarily Somali citizens. Somali citizenship when born outside the country is more complicated than that and will not be universal.

Either way legal status is just one of many reasons why this would be a horrific crime against humanity requiring prosecution by the Hague under the Rome statutes. You're still ripping an entire ethnic group away from their homes.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

#998
post #641

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I'm sorry to hear that. Yes, Daniel and I own 50% each. > obviously Berntsson has every right to his opinions and to express them Indeed. > and I also appreciate that someone can have control over an opinionated company and run it for one particular set of reasons but not for other causes that someone believes in That is exactly the case. > but in the end I just don't want my money supporting anti-people causes. As i…

> As a workplace I'm glad we're not a monoculture of 100% like-minded individuals. But if you're tolerant of someone in your workplace that wants to make it a monoculture, and then succeeds in doing so, will you remain glad?

aka the paradox of tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

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post #876

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There's nothing wrong with acting on new information as and when it surfaces in your life without obsessively staying up to date with every entity you engage with. That's the reasonable, pragmatic approach to trying to do the right thing without overwhelming yourself with the burden of being perfect. It's not a gotcha if you're inconsistent from an outsiders perspective, we're all doing the best we can with what litt…

> There's nothing wrong with acting on new information as and when it surfaces in your life without obsessively staying up to date with every entity you engage with. So you're saying the majority of the people here who say they're leaving Mullvad, have: 1. Not heard of Bezos' funding of the Trump family, or don't use Amazon at all 2. Not heard of Zuckerberg/Meta's [insert countless despicable things here], or don't h…

Coming across information isn't the same as:

- having the emotional energy reserves left to act on it

- fully understanding the repercussions of the thing

- feeling like your actions in this case will have any affect

- many other reasons you can't stay consistent from an outsiders perspective

You're trying to apply an objective measure of reality to everyone else: if they disagree with X, they must therefore also disagree with Y, otherwise they shouldn't act on X. It's an unreasonable expectation of perfect action.

Re: The CEO of Mullvad is the main financer of the Swedish Örebro party

#1000
post #570

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I'm sorry to hear that. I'm not defending his choice, but consider reading Daniel's rationale in the Flamman article. There's also his blog [1], which explains some of his views. I know he doesn't share all of Örebropartiets views, but I should let him provide that nuance. As I said in another comment, speaking for myself, I don’t like that he made this donation and I know this view is shared by many of my colleagues…

I wonder if by this thread's logic, it is now my turn to virtue signal as if I'm leaving Mullvad as a customer, because now you said that don't like someone else's freedom of conscience, and I value freedom of conscience. Such a bad place we're in: people say they value "freedom", but then you can't choose you own political representation without being witch-hunted to death by the same "freedom" group. (I honestly th…

"witch-hunted to death" is a fairly generous interpretation of "I am no longer going to be a Mullvad customer" don't you think?
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