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Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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The US oil companies will export their oil to China (or Japan, South Korea and other major oil importers, in lieu of oil bought by China.)

At a minimum that will reduce the trade deficit.

Maybe? I wouldn't count on it. The US may be a net petro exporter, but it's about 1% of GDP. The other 99% are not going to do well with inflated energy prices. So exports might net go down.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was…

>So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Hamas killed a few Israelis, that was perfectly fine reasoning for starting a genocidal military campaign against Palestine as a whole so I am not sure why that argument is a problem for you. Iran hasn't even directly attacked Israel the first shot, and they got invaded. So I don't see a problem if Irg…

> So I don't see a problem if Irgun were a jewish milita, to say israel/jews started it.

Because the Irgun attack on the Hotel was an attack against Britain, not the Arabs. So you are saying Jews started the war against the Arabs by attacking Britain. How is that even close to being logical?

And since you so conveniently ignored my citations on instances of Arab attacks against Israel that were well before this Hotel incident (happened in 1946) that you like repeatedly cite as the proof of "who started this shit", I'll list them again.

The Battle of Tel Hai (March 1920): Often cited as the first military confrontation between Arab and Jewish forces. It involved a clash between a Palestinian Arab militia and Jewish defenders of the Tel Hai settlement. It started when a Shiite Arab militia and local Bedouin, led by Kamal al-Hussein, entered the Jewish settlement of Tel Hai.

The 1920 Nebi Musa Riots: In April 1920, Arab residents attacked Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem during a religious procession.

The 1921 Jaffa Riots: This started as a scuffle between two different Jewish groups. Arab onlookers mistook it as an attack against Arabs and started attacking Jews.

"Dozens of British, Arab, and Jewish witnesses all reported that Arab men bearing clubs, knives, swords, and some pistols broke into Jewish buildings and murdered their inhabitants, while women followed to loot. They attacked Jewish pedestrians and destroyed Jewish homes and stores. They beat and killed Jews in their homes, including children, and in some cases split open the victims' skulls."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_riots_(May_1921)

And they are still doing that today.

The 1929 Hebron Massacre: Prompted by rumors that Jews intended to seize the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Arab mobs killed 67 Jews in Hebron.

The violent, blood thirsty Arabs started this shit.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was…

>Today, 75% of Palestinians support the murder, rape and kidnapping of festival attendees, families and children. That plainly shows what kind of people they are and why Israel needs to defend itself. That's a theory, israelis cheering snd celebrating the release of rapsists is well documented fact.

> That's a theory

uh no, it's data from polling Palestinians directly

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/israel-middle-east/nearl...

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was…

Why not, I cite these far right figures because these far right figures were instrumental in the creation of your country, and are still revered by many including officially. The Irgun was targeting many things, they were of course ingrates who hated the Brits that had gifted their own colonial land to these frauds for free, but they were also conducting terroristic operations against arabs. It's all very simple real…

> did they migrate peacefully to an existing country or take over lands someone else was living in?

The former. They legally bought land from Arab landowners. If the Arabs didn't want them there, they shouldn't have accepted their money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palest...

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was…

>So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Hamas killed a few Israelis, that was perfectly fine reasoning for starting a genocidal military campaign against Palestine as a whole so I am not sure why that argument is a problem for you. Iran hasn't even directly attacked Israel the first shot, and they got invaded. So I don't see a problem if Irg…

> Hamas killed a few Israelis

1200 is not a few. They also raped, tortured, kidnapped Israeli civilians including children.

The words you use to downplay this atrocity shows me what kind of person you are.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was…

Do you consider the current Israeli government far right? What do Israelis think of Bibi? Beacause you said I cited some fsr.right figures and projected thrm onto the entirety of Israel. If so enough Israelis are "far right" that they voted for one such figure. To show I am mot being racist, I am happy to use the same standards for the USA and Trump.

Whether the government is far right or not depends on who you ask. However you want to label Israel, it has a right to defend itself against people who want to invade Israeli territory and kill, rape and kidnap its citizens.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Right, clearly you can always find people to ship oil through the strait. So the whole notion that nobody will use it because it's dangerous is nonsense.

If you read what I said, it was that "most people won't do it", not that nobody will do it. From the point of view of worldwide oil supply, what most tanker captains do matters more than what a few exceptions do.

I mean, tankers are sailing just fine last I looked https://www.news24.com/world/china-expresses-gratitude-after...

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Why not, I cite these far right figures because these far right figures were instrumental in the creation of your country, and are still revered by many including officially. The Irgun was targeting many things, they were of course ingrates who hated the Brits that had gifted their own colonial land to these frauds for free, but they were also conducting terroristic operations against arabs. It's all very simple real…

> did they migrate peacefully to an existing country or take over lands someone else was living in? The former. They legally bought land from Arab landowners. If the Arabs didn't want them there, they shouldn't have accepted their money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palest...

huh, no response to this point donkeybeer?

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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> The King David Hotel bombing wasn't started by arabs, it occurred much before the 48 date you have given. Its clear who started shit. So you're saying since it was the Irgun that bombed the Hotel, it's the Jews who started the Arab Israeli conflict. Dude, get your facts straight. The 1946 Hotel bombing was against the British, not the Arabs. British administrative headquarters were housed in the Hotel and that was…

Does Israel have anything named Geoffrey Morton road or any placques or monuments to this hero?

What a dumb argument.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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I was not talking about light-speed motorcycles. That was an artifact of imperfect war simulation. The relevant concept is undetectable (by electronic surveilance) communication usable for tactical warfighting. Real life motorcycle messengers are a partial (detectable, high-latency) solutions for which there are currently (not at the time of that war exercise) better options (e.g. the one I presented). You can nitpic…

both in Ukraine and elsewhere there is the fiber optic challenge. shouldn't it be possible to lock-in amplify imagery of known fluorescent centers in the main types of fiber optic?: flash/flood the scene with appropriate stimulation wavelength for suitable fluorescent center, take a picture (and observe the emission wavelength), then take the same picture without the flash, repeat this N times and add all the ones wi…

Can you point me to more information on:

"shouldn't it be possible to lock-in amplify imagery of known fluorescent centers in the main types of fiber optic?"

In Ukraine, there are areas densely covered with fiber optic lines, almost all of them old. How would you detect and cut only the active ones?

A brightly flashing drone examining and cutting fiber optics lines would a) be slow and very obvious, easy to disable b) need a lot of battery power for all those flashes, and risk getting tangled in branches when cutting

On the other hand, if you can easily remotely detect the fiber optic cables, it might be useful for quickly detecting them and tracing them back to the operator.

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