I'm perfectly content to post my poorly spelt words and grammatical errors to authenticate myself. But I know everyone it's probably using the AI filter now.
Why don't we just do AI bot to AI bot communications for everything? I'm kidding I would not like that
Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans
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#992I'm absolutely 100% for this policy. My only caution is that good writers and LLMs look very similar, because LLMs were trained on a corpus of good writers. Good writers use semicolons and em-dashes. Sometimes we used bulleted lists or Oxford commas. So we should make sure to follow that other HN rule, and assume the person on the other end is a good faith actor, and be cautious about accusing someone of using AI. (I…
You confuse good writing with following rigid set of rules that describe something akin to mechanistic process of manufacturing. No wonder that machines fit perfectly into this shape.
Good writing is not created by Oxford commas or em-dashes. It comes from taste.
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#993yes
Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans
#994I'm absolutely 100% for this policy. My only caution is that good writers and LLMs look very similar, because LLMs were trained on a corpus of good writers. Good writers use semicolons and em-dashes. Sometimes we used bulleted lists or Oxford commas. So we should make sure to follow that other HN rule, and assume the person on the other end is a good faith actor, and be cautious about accusing someone of using AI. (I…
You confuse good writing with following rigid set of rules that describe something akin to mechanistic process of manufacturing. No wonder that machines fit perfectly into this shape. Good writing is not created by Oxford commas or em-dashes. It comes from taste .
It's both actually. First you have to have good taste, but if you don't execute well, then no one can see it.
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#995Using AI to write content is seen so harshly because it violates the previously held social contract that it takes more effort to write messages than to read messages. If a person goes through the trouble of thinking out and writing an argument or message, then reading is a sufficient donation of time. However, with the recent chat based AI models, this agreement has been turned around. It is now easier to get a writ…
When I have AI write things for me, I'm spending a good amount of time on it - certainly longer than it takes to read. I'm also usually editing it quite a bit. Maybe I'm an outlier, but I still don't think it's appropriate to make a blanket statement about using AI to write content violating this social contract you described.
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#996I am 100% behind this. I've been browsing hackernews since I started in tech, it is the only forum i regularly browse, and partake in. Simply because the quality of submissions and conversations are so high. There has been more AI related articles this part year, and it only seems ramping. I personally haven't found the AI part of the comments as big of a deal but dang and tom might be doing more than I realize on th…
The dynamics of content production are shifting hard right now. Things that used to signal something interesting are being generated in minutes with little thought. It's getting democratized, but also commoditized. It's too soon to know how this is going to shake out, so we should resist the temptation to impose rules prematurely. And we should especially not do so out of resistance to change (when has that ever work…
> But we'll do what we need to do to keep our heads above water. Example: https://news.ycombinator.com/showlim. I figure pragmatics are fine as long one keeps adjusting.
Is this page meant to be discoverable normally, or is it just there to host a message for those who encounter the restriction?
Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans
#997I am 100% behind this. I've been browsing hackernews since I started in tech, it is the only forum i regularly browse, and partake in. Simply because the quality of submissions and conversations are so high. There has been more AI related articles this part year, and it only seems ramping. I personally haven't found the AI part of the comments as big of a deal but dang and tom might be doing more than I realize on th…
If you haven't yet checked it out, I'd recommend taking a look at Tildes for similarly high quality submissions/conversations as on HN. It really is such a breath of fresh air compared to most other platforms.
Just had a look, it is pretty interesting, just from the few times I've checked the frontpage there was some interesting articles to me. with a variety of topic. Great suggestion!
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#998The rule has been around for years, but only in case law, i.e. moderation comments ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... ). What's new is that we promoted it to the guidelines. Fortunately I found some things we could cut as well, so https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html actually got shorter. --- Edit: here are the bits I cut: Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pic…
> I don't think we have to worry about cute animal pictures taking over HN. Challenge accepted.
I can't reply to your "Isn’t that just fiction?" reply to my comment. To answer your question: No, it's not. Consider e.g. Historical Fiction or fiction set in the present.
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#999agreed. ai-generated seo will kill your site too!
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#1000kill ia or killed by ai