It has been extremely disheartening to see people celebrating this across other social media platforms.
Obviously that's not representative.
You should get off social media for a while if you think it in any way is.
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#992All the conspiracy theorizing is silly, imo. This is just another shot fired in the long history of American assassination. Charlie Kirk should be proud. The is the America he asked for. And this may be the beginning of a very violent period in American politics.
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#993I was just at a conference today where one of the presenters referenced the "Trust barometer": https://www.edelman.com/trust/2025/trust-barometer According to that study, 23% approved of the statement "I approve hostile activism to drive change by threatening or committing violence". It's even higher if you only focus on 18-34 year olds. Full report here: https://www.edelman.com/sites/g/files/aatuss191/files/2025-0..…
"threatening or committing violence" could mean almost anything. It isn't hard to find evidence of people (especially young ones) equating speech with violence. I imagine that "I support assassination to drive change" would be even less popular.
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#994But we have to make an effort in the United States. We have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond, or go beyond these rather difficult times. My favorite poem, my -- my favorite poet was Aeschylus. And he once wrote: "Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God." What we need in the Uni…
A nitpicky note: Aeschylus didn't say that.
RFK probably studied Aeschylus in the original Greek, and did an on-the-fly translation. A more literal translation is:
"Zeus, who guided men to think, who has laid it down that wisdom comes alone through suffering. Still there drips in sleep against the heart grief of memory; against our will temperance comes. From the gods who sit in grandeur grace is somehow violent."
There's no "turning the other cheek here." It claims violence does indeed beget violence, and there's no human way around that.
To be clear, I'm not advocating violence, or even criticizing RFK. I'm simply defending the purity of Aeschylus.
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#995History books can tell you facts that happened, but they can never truly tell you how it feels. I feel we're riding a knife's edge and there's a hurricane brewing in the gulf of absurdity. ==== Incidentally, I feel like this is why it is so hard to actually learn from history. You can read about the 1918 'Spanish' Flu, but you think "we're smarter now". etc.
This is where poetry comes in: WH Auden's "September 1, 1939" (https://poets.org/poem/september-1-1939) comes to mind.
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#996The shooter was identified [1] and is in custody [2]. [1] - https://www.newsweek.com/tyler-robinson-roommate-charlie-kir... [2] - https://www.newsweek.com/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-shootin...
More information. He may not have been working alone and his roommate may have delivered the weapon. [1]
Debunking The Biggest Lies Told About Charlie Kirk [2]
[1] - https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-t...
[2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N14ywRyTWVI [video][56 mins]
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#997My theory on this and other recent shootings of this type: it is driven by the over medication of our youth, convincing them something is wrong with them for not wanting to sit still in factory schools. Our medical understanding of the drugs prescribed to kids that affect their brains is far smaller than it should be for how pervasive these drugs have become.
We don't know that yet, but it might be also driven by social media radicalization. I'm also curious of the shooter's motives. Judging from the bullet engravings he might have thought he was shooting an awful person, but still, why waste your own life like this? Their wife and kids who were at the scene and maybe some other individuals will probably become radicalized now. Why? It doesn't make any sense.
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#1000I'm sorry to say this but I just enjoy the irony of it all. His last words were "Counting or not counting gang violence?". He literally died arguing for less gun control, saying mass violence and death is acceptable. I guess he found out the hard way the consequences of spreading hateful, bigoted, divisive, evil shit. Ben Shapiro cancelled a bunch of his visits to college campuses, I think that's hilarious - I wouldn't shed any tears for him, either.
What if Trump is behind this, and he had him killed to distract from the Epstein files business? He could also blame it on the liberals and the left, and make his own party look like victims.