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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by frollogaston »

nirvdrum wrote: post #734
Shorel wrote: post #619

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> IE has been dead and buried for ages. Edge doesn't have even close to the same market share and is based on Chromium. Because we remember the evil Microsoft. Many young people still follow advice from the elders.

> Because we remember the evil Microsoft. Many young people still follow advice from the elders. I get the point you're making, but it really seems like we haven't remembered. We've worked ourselves back into one juggernaut owning most of the web browser space and then collectively acted surprised when they started flexing their muscles. I encounter sites that only run in Chrome the same way I had sites that only ran…

The Chrome situation is non-ideal but still nowhere as bad. True IE was Windows-only (Mac one doesn't really count), closed-source so no other browsers could act like it, also it sucked per se.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by collinmanderson »

rs186 wrote: post #869
arielcostas wrote: post #837

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Do you really miss stuff in VS Code's core editor? I mean, coming to think about it, VS Code feels "feature complete", I haven't found in other editors features that I thought "wish I had this in VS Code". Not to justify the whole changelog being about Copilot (isn't it supposed to be a separate extension anyway?), but I guess it's either that or going for a while without updates, or really small changes you'd probab…

Just look at open issues, sorted by most thumbs up: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20st... One that I am interested in is tree sitter syntax highlighting support: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/50140 There are a ton of things that could be done. The fact that you haven't personally needed more features doesn't mean it's "feature complete". Not even close. You just haven't hit thos…

They probably see Cursor as a threat and are trying hard to keep up and avoid losing market share.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by KaiserPro »

theptip wrote: post #985
thewebguyd wrote: post #926

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> You don't notice with chatGPT, because you expect it to be the dipshit in your pocket. You don't expect apple to be shit. So many people don't realize this for some reason, but I think it's precisely why we haven't seen anything shown at WWDC '24. Apple tried and quickly realized the tech wasn't ready, and letting it run wild on their platforms would do irreparable brand damage. This tech (LLMs) have barely been av…

OpenAI is the fastest growing consumer tech company of all time. The big guys have to move at what for them is breakneck speed, just to have a chance at retaining their market share. They will be swept away if they sit and wait a couple years for some uppity startup to build the AI disruptor and eat their lunch.

> They will be swept away if they sit and wait a couple years

I'm not sure that assertion is entirely correct, but I'm aware that I'm making tech predictions that I am very bad at.

The long term future is AR glasses. But the problem is, physics and battery chemistry means thats not going to happen for ~10 years at the very minimum.

Until then its still tablet/phones. The problem for openAI is that for them to provide useful results, they need access to all your "context" (messages, photos, location, spending, conversations, videos everything) Apple isn't going to allow that, which means that openAI isn't going to be all that useful on ios.

Android however is much more loosey goosey. The issue is, will google allow a competitor to steal all that context and muscle them out of their own platform?

I'm not sure openAI is going to win this, mainly because they need their own platform, and they only thing they have is brand loyalty, rather than a network effect. chatGPT is fungible with any of the other providers. The only thing that makes them stand out is the tools that are bundled with chatgpt. that and weird personification/pack bonding.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by smcin »

moi2388 wrote: post #841
smcin wrote: post #660

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Why doesn't your company get the use case for Elasticsearch? Is it because you're trying to pitch it with CTO arguments on capabilities, not COO/CFO arguments like "will permanently replace N humans"?

No, they do get it. They just don’t want to invest time in it, so only through a third party. But AI is sexy, so LLMs doing document search? Yes please, let’s have some teams dedicate their time and effort to develop it ourselves. It’s because AGI is going to come, you know, so if we invest now they can replace everybody with AI Are you laughing as hard as I was when they told me this?

If your mgmt is so technically illiterate, why not just pitch them you're investigating using LLMs, then do the ElasticSearch work and sprinkle on some magic LLM pixie dust so it looks good on their mgmt slides? Should keep you all happy. That's generally what I've seen happen under such types.

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Post by Rapzid »

arielcostas wrote: post #837
rs186 wrote: post #412

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Thank you, this does not get discussed enough on HN. I used to look forward to monthly releases of VSCode and actually read the changelog carefully to see what new features/enhancements I could make use of. These days I just glance and ignore it completely -- almost everything is Copilot, MCP blahblah. Such a disappointment. You would think with all the AI magic, they would deliver more "core editor" features/enhance…

Do you really miss stuff in VS Code's core editor? I mean, coming to think about it, VS Code feels "feature complete", I haven't found in other editors features that I thought "wish I had this in VS Code". Not to justify the whole changelog being about Copilot (isn't it supposed to be a separate extension anyway?), but I guess it's either that or going for a while without updates, or really small changes you'd probab…

Yes I stopped reading the release nots a while before the big LLM bang.

Now I'm trialing Copilot off and on and I'm actually interested in these AI tool improvements.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by Rapzid »

bitbasher wrote: post #466

GitHub has been a growing disappointment for quite a while. 1. GitHub itself isn't opensource despite being the opensource forge. 2. Microsoft (of all companies) acquired it. 3. Microsoft pushes VSCode and kills GitHub's Atom. 4. GitHub employees are quite political (master branch rename, ICE protest resignations, etc). 5. GitHub striking down repositories and user accounts (the Russian developer, yt-dlp, etc). 6. LL…

Atom was terrible and Microsoft had the talent to build a performant IDE. That's what happened to Atom.

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Post by jama211 »

bee_rider wrote: post #667
bananalychee wrote: post #503

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Of course it does in the US tech bubble, if you talk to people who haven't been using Macs for 30 years you might hear a different story. While Apple makes good hardware they also have plenty of blunders, especially in recent years, much like Microsoft in its domain really. Both are coasting on their past successes and familiarity. I get it, many of my coworkers watch their announcement streams like they're video gam…

The VR headset was such a flop that I think it might paradoxically have not hurt their reputation. Like nobody is saying “wow, this Apple vision thing really sucks,” because nobody has seen one.

Also no one cares about it positive or negative because it’s such a nothing burger. No one even thinks apple thought it would be big, it was an experiment that’s all.

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Post by jama211 »

rockemsockem wrote: post #257
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #242

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> but I'd say few tech people have been excited about Apple otherwise lately, as product or platform And probably fewer still consider switching to the alternatives. Apple is, for better or worse, usually the least bad option.

For hardware only

It’s ok to have preferences, it’s not ok to say “x is objectively bad” just because you personally don’t like it.

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Post by thiht »

croes wrote: post #864
thiht wrote: post #583

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No, it’s pretty clear. Some extensions are NOT open source. It’s not ambiguous, and there’s nothing wrong with that as long as these extensions don’t have superpowers (ie. access to unexposed VSCode APIs)

What's wrong is that those extensions don't work with VS Codium because VS Codium isn't allowed to access the VS Code marketplace. Why? Imagine Google blocking Edge from using Chrome extensions.

> Imagine Google blocking Edge from using Chrome extensions.

I see nothing wrong with that if developers can upload their extension to the Edge Store in addition to the Chrome Store

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by rockemsockem »

jama211 wrote: post #998
rockemsockem wrote: post #257

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For hardware only

It’s ok to have preferences, it’s not ok to say “x is objectively bad” just because you personally don’t like it.

Your comment does what your comment says isn't okay.

Maybe you shouldn't go around policing people's opinions.

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