‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

Post by DiogenesKynikos » Sat, Aug 02, 2025, 10:52 AM UTC

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The use of the term "West Bank arabs" is already a racist dog whistle. They're called "Palestinians." They come from Palestine. They're not going to willingly allow themselves to be deported to Jordan, as you want.

they called themselves Arabs before 1960. You’re probably aware of that since you keep commenting on this issue. Jordan is also Palestine which you should also be aware of before commenting on this issue.

Post by nailer » Sat, Aug 02, 2025, 10:59 AM UTC

DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #992

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but Arabs colonised the Levant from their native homeland in the Arabian Peninsula.

The Arabs did not replace the native peoples of the Levant. The Palestinians turn out to be even more closely related to ancient Levantine people (including ancient Israelites) than most Israelis are. Levantine peoples started speaking Arabic, the same way that Jews in ancient times stopped speaking Hebrew (except in religious contexts) and adopted Aramaic as their native language. Not that any of this matters. What…

Post by starik36 » Sat, Aug 02, 2025, 9:52 PM UTC

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> Anyone still need testimonies like these to be convinced that Israel You are operating until a false premise that Palestinians/Hamas are some sort of children and bear no responsibility for anything at all. Where in reality, the war could have been over in 5 minutes if they released the hostages at any time during the past 3 years. It still can be over in 5 minutes if they choose to do that. But no, they will put a…

> Where in reality, the war could have been over in 5 minutes if they released the hostages at any time during the past 3 years. This talking point is very-much dated now.. Israel has said that they will not stop until Hamas is "eliminated". Netanyahu also threw in another condition to end the war: implementation of Donald Trump's plan to relocate Gaza's civilians [0]. So now I guess it doesn't end until ethnic clean…

Post by avoutos » Sun, Aug 03, 2025, 1:17 PM UTC

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The market value of hoarded food going up only helps Hamas if they are the one managing to do the hoarding - otherwise it actually works against Hamas (if there's another distributor)

Exactly. If Hamas is doing it, it's self-defeating. If Hamas isn't doing it then you're just starving people. Because the point is just starvation, nothing to do with Hamas. BTW, all orgs (other than the lyin' IDF) says Hamas wasn't stealing significant amounts of aid (nowhere near the 10% claimed). Therefore it's clear starvation was the goal, not targeting funding or Hamas at all.

Post by avoutos » Sun, Aug 03, 2025, 2:00 PM UTC

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> Western nations aren't doing anything nor are middle eastern governments, nor asian governments. On the other hand, middle Eastern nations and Asian nations are typically protesting loudly, they don't protect Israel in the UN, they recognize the Palestinian state, they don't sell weapons to Israel.

From an outcome perspective there isn't much difference. Egypt and Jordan keep their borders ironclad shut, no middle eastern country is taking relevant numbers of refugees. None of them have been able to stop Iran from using Hamas and Hezbollah as proxies against Israel. It usually easy to bash the west, but still I don't see anybody else doing much better.