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Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#991
Very late to this party, but here's my two cents worth:

"Random" advertising is completely irrelevant, and a total waste.

"Targeted" advertising is an unwanted intrusion on my privacy.

Advertising is a poison that demeans even love – and we're hooked on it -- George Monbiot [0]

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/24/advert...

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#992

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Idk man instead of freeloading how about paying for the service? I generally avoid dismissive comments like these but I think it needs to be said. If you don’t like ads pay for the service. You don’t deserve content for free.

Even if you pay for YouTube you will still see ads inserted by the content creators.

This is a silly criticism, but for the record the sponsorblock extension does a great job at skipping these.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#993

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Or just pay for it? I have my whole family on my plan. Nobody gets ads. It is a bargain. You're right, I could probably finish my motorcycle build projects without videos. But why??

I’d gladly pay for YouTube or other Google services when they offer an option to not track my activity at all. For me it’s not about seeing ads just on YouTube, but being tracked all through the web and still being served inappropriate or spammy ads.

Then just use a burner account with a fake name…

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#994

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Or just pay for it? I have my whole family on my plan. Nobody gets ads. It is a bargain. You're right, I could probably finish my motorcycle build projects without videos. But why??

My higher point was you probably don't need video entertainment in your life. Surely you would agree that just about any hobby is more holistically enriching than watching youtube? Not to mention other issues surrounding mass video content.

You vastly underestimate the practical uses of youtube. Crash course alone gets millions of people through their formal education.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#995
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You're asking the question in a way that's unreflective of how people think. They can do it and want to do it and would need a reason to not do it. So the question is, what would make someone feel like they were ethically compelled to watch an advertisement? It sounds impossible to me, maybe someone with a very unique perspective could chime in about themselves. Here's an attempt at a double-negative answer: you can'…

Why isn’t simply avoiding YouTube considered a viable solution?

If you can’t make a reasonable attempt to answer your own question, you’re not here to argue in good faith.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#996
post #360

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There's a very simple answer. You want to watch some content. The content provider offers you two options: pay and get no ads, or watch for free and also sit through some ads. You are not obligated to watch ads. You are opting to watch them in exchange for the free content, then skipping out on a commitment you volunteered for while still taking the free content. The "unethical contact" argument is bullshit, because…

> The content provider offers you two options: pay and get no ads, or watch for free and also sit through some ads. You're wrong in both parts. 1. There is no way to pay to only remove all ads. YT premium bundles some music nonsense and also doesn't remove ads added by creators. 2. "Watching" isn't part of the contract, only "injected ads" are. Do you read every billboard in exchange for the benefit of better roads f…

You’re just factually incorrect on 1. Creator sponsors are not YT ads, by your logic i wouldn’t be allowed to watch a movie trailer on youtube because it’s technically an ad for something.

What we choose to watch on youtube is also up to us.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#997

The primary thing that makes advertisements disagreeable is their irrelevance. That’s not to say whether or not the advertisement is for a product or service for which the viewer is interested in purchasing but how it relates to the context in which it is viewed. People complain about billboards next to a countryside highway because it is entirely irrelevant to driving through the countryside. Actual complaints may b…

It's not their irrelevance, it's their intrusion. The difference between going to Costco and seeing an ad for tires while I'm shopping and being forced to watch some ad online is like the difference between getting punched in the gut during a water polo game (not necessarily pleasant, but expected and to a degree necessary) versus someone kicking down my door in the middle of the night and beating the shit out of me.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#998
post #239

Why do we justify blocking ads, even when we know the content we’re consuming isn’t free to create and even if the content is free, it still costs money to store and distribute? We often rationalize using ad blockers because ads can be intrusive or annoying. But let’s asking ourselves: Why do we feel entitled to get this for free? This isn’t a moral judgment. I genuinely want to understand the reasoning.

Bait-and-switch.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#999
post #94

The number of ads they run reminds me of the good old days where half of the TV show time was commercials.

When was that? I'm genuinely asking, since I remember the breakdown from when I was recording TV to my computer and editing out the commercials, as 10 minutes of commercials and 20 minutes of TV show.

My recollection was that this was in the mid 90s.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

#1000
post #94

The number of ads they run reminds me of the good old days where half of the TV show time was commercials.

Absurd but true in a similar way: I get a tiny spark of nostalgia on those occasions where a bit of sponsored promotion pops into part of some podcast i'm listening to as a YT video while I do chores. (Ublock running, so no third party ads at least) The thing about those idiotic third party ads on YouTube, which is so grotesquely annoying is that, unlike TV ads of old, some of then can literally run for dozens of min…

When I use to listen to radio, I dreamed of a system that would auto mute the commercials
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