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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

firesteelrain wrote: post #806
eli_gottlieb wrote: post #759

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And all we have is DHS' word that Harvard didn't provide what was required. This is simply ridiculous and everything needs to be easier for the public to double-check so we can call bullshit in the right direction.

Your bias is showing. Harvard could be wrong too. This is all being argued in the court of public opinion now

The bayesean priors aren't the same for the two parties: One is a 30-time convicted criminal infamous for lying to get his way (tens of thousands of such lies on the record); The other is not.

If your first instinct isn't that the infamous known liar isn't the one lying here, then the bias here is yours.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by FpUser »

corimaith wrote: post #987
FpUser wrote: post #568

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It seems that the amount of fences is growing up exponentially. To the point that we are all corralled. Not so long time ago people could move from country to country relatively freely. Now it is a fucking tragedy

>Not so long time ago people could move from country to country relatively freely The well-off rich and upper middle-class could move from country to country relatively freely, or immigrants who intended not to look back. Which puts a strong pressure on self-selection on the type of people coming into a country. That time isn't now, with cheap airfares and the internet, it's much more easier for anyone to come in, of…

>"When the time comes, how many of these immigrants do you think will fight for their host country? Especially if said host country make likely come into conflict with their homelands."

Same arguments were just as valid 100-200 years ago where virtually anyone could move anywhere.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by SR2Z »

const_cast wrote: post #983
anonfordays wrote: post #972

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The other side four years ago: Can we say "Marxism" out loud yet or are moderates still pretending everything is fine?

Marxism is when ultra-capitalist slightly right leaning politicians make boring policies to further enrich the American capitalist class. Oh and also some token "woke" stuff that doesn't really help anyone but I guess doesn't make anything worse either. There's not a single Marxist in American politics at any level of power that matters. We have two neo-liberal parties that are both right leaning. One is ultra-right…

AOC and Sanders wanted a JOB GUARANTEE as part of the GND. The "one-time wealth tax" is confiscation and redistribution.

That's sure as hell not capitalism.

In what world is a party advocating for universal healthcare, free college, and expanded immigration "slightly right?"

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by bergerjac »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #922
fnordpiglet wrote: post #283

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Which isn’t at all how PhD programs work. This is a supreme dick move to students are going to be forced to leave with an AbD for no other reason than Trumps ego. This is going to burn the children of the most powerful families across the world. Monarchies, dictators, owners of international conglomerates, etc all send their kids to Harvard. Destroying their children’s education out of a fit of malice is going to hau…

Here’s a case in point - future queen of Belgium kicked out of college by the president of the United States: https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5316202-future-queen-...

Considering it’s not 1733, a future Belgian monarch has almost zero power.

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Post by Slava_Propanei »

ithkuil wrote: post #242

The us government, using the appropriate mechanism like passing laws etc, can change the policies like they see fit. However I don't understand how it's possible to single out a specific university. Are there precedents for this kind of behaviour?

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Post by H4X0R112 »

GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #482
goatlover wrote: post #427

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I don't get how DHS has control over what universities foreign students can attend. Either than can attend school in the US or not. Saying they have to transfer from Harvard to another American university is total abuse of power. Surely there are lawsuits in the works over this.

i'd guess this kind of thing (per-institutional authorization to allow international students) was intended to provide the government a way to revoke that right from "sham" institutions (wonder if Trump University ever had international students?) or ones that otherwise were obviously trying to facilitate students skirting or abusing immigration law. not that i agree with that anyways (citizenship is stupid, borders…

Even in the Pre-Industrial Age, Obvious differences existed between class hierarchy or ethnicities. When an Empire does not specifically identify with one or two ethnicities, most societies have always been wary of foreigners by calling them "Barbarians". Chichimecas, Mongols, Non-Greeks, Non-Han Chinese, etc.

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Post by FireBeyond »

woggy wrote: post #577
kurtis_reed wrote: post #365

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Oh please

I think you have your head in the sand. This Harvard thing is just one example. Just saw a report this morning (Aus time) of an Australian detained, stripped, and held overnight in a US federal prison. She was just coming in to visit her husband. Who the hell will want to come to the US now? You are going to suffer a massive reverse brain drain. You got a 30% tariff tax, kidnapping of random people off the street inc…

Hah, my parents are in Australia. They're already unsure if they can/will come to my wedding next year in the US because of all of this.

Thanks, Trump.

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