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my take on this is that "2 week notice" should probably apply to businesses as well?
I'm not taking Google's side here AT ALL but it's likely this person was given much more than 2 weeks of pay as severance.
the whole post is about "company shut off access with no notice"
and 2 weeks notice is "must warn before stopping working somewhere"
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The idea of being able to keep a laptop sounds absurd to me. Of course many European countries have labor laws which make it near impossible to fire someone on the spot. >Only in very critical jobs they'd walk you out immediately but then you still get the pay. Presumably you are also still employed, just not given any tasks. I do not think that here in Germany there is any way to immediately fire someone, just becau…
Re: Germany - for sure there is. Aufhebungsvertrag if you as employee agree. Kündigung mit sofortiger Freistellung if you don't agree.
That is something both sides have to agree on. So it can not be considered "firing".
>Freistellung
You are still employed, just have no tasks assigned to you. Completely different scenario for the employee, who now can look for a new job, while still being paid as if he were employed. Arguably it is even better than being let go, but having to continue working. Definitely anything but a "firing on the spot".
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Google didn’t used to be quite so bad at this. Back when they closed the Atlanta office, people there got a lot of notice and opportunity to find another role. The complaints were about not being allowed to go full-time remote. I wonder what changed?
Sundar Pichai. That's what changed. He's one of the most uninspiring tech leaders of today who just wants to run an already established business with more and more ads with some AI sprinkled upon everything. And cost cutting. That's all, that's his entire vision.
These megacorps will have so much fun in the upcoming recession. They turned public opinion against them through sociopathic profiteering and then mass layoffs. When the cows come home it won't be fun and games like before.
> sociopathic profiteering That "sociopathic" profiteering funds the 401(k), IRAs, and pension plans of tens of millions of Americans. God forbid these companies be run for the collective benefit of all shareholders (including special ed teachers, utility workers, and airline mechanics) and not just the lottery winners who scored the high-paying jobs at these companies. > mass layoffs The "Day in the Life" videos tha…
At the cost of the destruction of the entire rest of the economy, which is coming home to roost right now. People's retirement should never have been loaded onto the stock market. That was a 'mistake' from the start. A 'mistake' that was designed to bloat the stock investors' coffers.
> God forbid these companies be run for the collective benefit of all shareholders
No; First, if you are profiting at the detriment of entire rest of the society by consolidating the economy in your hand by bankrupting everyone else, it doesnt matter if you run it 'for the collective benefit of the shareholders'. And even cheating, scamming at that:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43719246
Second, let's get real - it's not the employees who benefit from the stock prices the most. Even proposing they do is just self-deceit.
> The "Day in the Life" videos that made the rounds on TikTok sapped the general public of whatever sympathy they may have otherwise had for the FANMAGers getting sacked from their $100-300k jobs.
The layoffs involve much more than those 6-figure job holders.
ISTM software engineers have been living in a privileged and elite world. They are then utterly shocked to be treated like employees are treated elsewhere. Pretty much anywhere if you are let go, your email access and physical access are cut off immediately. Start-ups do this all the time as funding gets tight or there is a need to pivot. I get that this sucks (and have been on the both the dishing out side of this a…
They have no right to stop him from expressing his feelings publicly.
ISTM software engineers have been living in a privileged and elite world. They are then utterly shocked to be treated like employees are treated elsewhere. Pretty much anywhere if you are let go, your email access and physical access are cut off immediately. Start-ups do this all the time as funding gets tight or there is a need to pivot. I get that this sucks (and have been on the both the dishing out side of this a…
How is posting factual information and his true feelings damaging to his former employer? They have no right to stop him from expressing his feelings publicly.
If you get fired and your reaction is to go to your blog and whine about losing email access and not being able to deliver a talk that you had prepared for x time I, as a prospective employer, am going to draw some conclusions about your personality that won't help you get the job I'm offering.
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No such thing as FU money. As you get more you want more, or if you don't then your spouse does. There is such a thing as "I can tolerate a 3-6 month job search no problem and not jump at the first opportunity" money. It makes 90% of the difference, especially in the long run.
Of course there is such a thing. Lifestyle inflation is a known phenomenon which you (and your spouse) can choose to avoid if you prioritize it, not some immutable rule of nature. If the treadmill of accumulation that lets someone believe "there's no such thing as enough" ever stops, I think they would be shocked at how quickly they realize what enough actually means.