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20% of Israel citizenship is Arab, they get equal rights. Parliamentary representatives etc. they even get affirmative action in getting higher education. Is it perfect? No Half the country is fighting the other half to keep us a western democracy. But every time ignorants post half baked opinions and paint us as pure evil, more ppl here say, fuck it.
They have equal rights on paper, not in reality.
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> newly invented security guarantees This just isn't true. He had been publicly stating that there needed to be security guarantees for weeks before the meeting. Also, perhaps if Ukraine had been involved in the prior "peace talks" he would have had an opportunity to state this directly to the US administration.
Those absolutely are in the context, given they already had a document that was ready to be signed and _expected_ to be signed if Zelenskyy even took the trip. That is also the reason this got so public, it was NOT supposed to be a negotiation but Zelenskyy just faux pa'd hard.
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The US hasn’t been isolationist since WW2, quite the opposite once we were relatively unscathed by the conflict and rose to the worlds #1 military superpower.
"Since"? US was isolationist for a large part of the war. It's their underlying policy. Sure they do sometimes deploy to get oil from the middle east and such, but that is quite different. As was the whole libya thing, concerned about the gold dinar, not some leader figure.
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maybe watch some real news not only Fjox or X. I think they filtered out reality for your account.
Fun how you project your own lack of source diversity on others. Fox I see as much as I see any other legacy media. X is just a platform though, and is the best in not hampering speech so I do read it more than Reddit, which I would prefer not be so hard left nowadays as I like the site's structure more.
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After Zelenskyy came to the White House with the intention of running the already-decided deal to the ground with some newly invented security guarantees not talked about previously, heavily expecting US to bend the knee to him is just out of place. This is a completely bonkers take. You actually expected him to sign over an absurd mineral commitment with no agreed benefit for Ukraine? Just toss Ukraine up on the tab…
You are missing the whole point. Regardless of the deal, Zelenskyy acted the wrong way by even attending if that was his line. He tried to make the whole thing a media spectacle and make everyone look bad. Shame is on him.
US's underlying line is to be isolationist, see other comments here. "Duty" to be world police LOL
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Meanwhile Putin became silent after he forced Sweden and Finland to reconsider and join. The threat to putin wasn't Nato om his doorstep but a partially russian speaking country becoming a successful democracy and joining EU.
Somewhat surprisingly they are OK with Ukraine joining the EU [1]. > Ukraine has a sovereign right to join the European Union, but this “sovereignty” does not apply to military alliances, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said. https://www.politico.eu/article/dmitrt-peskov-kremlin-ukrain...
They very much are not. See the invasion in 2014 when Ukraine was not seeking to join NATO Ukraine tried to join NATO after the Russian invasion in 2014 but was not seeking to join it beforehand. Pro Russian propaganda frequently pretends the timeline was different then they actually was so they can flip cause and effect.
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NATO has never been a threat to Russia. Under what scenario are all the governments of NATO countries convinced to attack Russia? Also Finland just joined and Russia barley registered a complaint.
>NATO has never been a threat to Russia This is a very naive take, I think. When you are responsible for the security of a nation, you can't just remain passive to the potential threats that shows up on your doorstep. I mean, it would be irresponsible his people if Putin did that and trusted NATO/US blindly to not cross the line, one way or another. (I mean, US could always make up some cooked up justification for th…
All of that is russian propaganda. Falling for obvious propagnada about NATO danger to Russia is an incredibly naive take
Russia did not invade a NATO country, they invaded Ukraine when it wasn't seeking to join NATO (in 2014 before the invasion, after the invasion they wanted to join NATO but there were too many objecting countries in NATO and it was obvious to everyone that Ukraine wasn't getting in anytime soon and this was just as true in early 2022).
> US could always make up some cooked up justification for the attack, like it has done so many times in the past
Russia has a history with making up justifications to invade and they did in this case.
> So if US is putting missiles near Russian border, even if that is on behalf of NATO, I think Putin is bound to do something about it..
They were not putting missles in the border. In fact until recently nato had minimal forces and no bases next to Russia to try to mollify them. Especially not in Ukraine which again was not in NATO and was not getting any closer to NATO. Russia was not bound to invade Ukraine and it was in fact a pretty dumb move which had obvius consequences of making Russias security much worse and even many Putin's advisors had a hard time believing he would do it.
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#1000Right now every buyer of American kit is feverishly evaluating non-US alternatives. Seriously, America, this is like Brexit but 1000x. A voluntary decision, taken with gusto, to chop off arms and legs and ears and fingers and whatnot, cut off the deadwood, be light and free, a lone vessel on the ocean of prosperity, free of the burden of the stupid foreigners who are the sole reason why everything was going wrong.
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