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Post by quasarj »

ourmandave wrote: post #181
shihab wrote: post #8

Is anyone aware of any opinion poll among US population about banning tiktok? This to me feels like one of the issues with potentially largest disconnect between voters and politicians Edit: found one from Pew. "The share of Americans who support the U.S. government banning TikTok now stands at 32%." Sept 05, 2024. In contrast, 87% US lawmakers voted for the law that caused this.

I wonder if those numbers would change if people read the same intel reports and knew how far the Chinese spies are up our asses.

They probably would. But so long as the decisions are made using secret information, how can we know? We can only assume they are lying to us, until they show the proof.

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Post by OGWhales »

karmajuney wrote: post #807

While it’s back in the US, it seems to be a separate version from the rest of the world. My account is European and I can no longer log in within the US without a VPN out of the country. My GFs account is American and she can login but has lost access to some accounts and the ability to watch livestreams which my version of the app still has. I wonder if the 13 hour “outage” was for a larger scale data migration for…

> I wonder if the 13 hour “outage” was for a larger scale data migration for a separate US version

First I've seen this theory and it makes a ton of sense in light of the new discrepancies between what US and non-US accounts can see and search for.

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Post by idhegeu »

lenerdenator wrote: post #970

It's so awesome to see the executive branch, in a move for clout, decide to ignore a law passed by bipartisan action in Congress, almost by dictorial fiat.

Don't forget that it was also unanimously upheld by the supreme court!

Maybe this will be the hill he dies on. I can't bring myself to believe that he'll be allowed to literally become the day 1 dictator he that he promised he would.

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Post by diob »

jwarden wrote: post #988
yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

The US president is not all-powerful. If he was, Trump would not have been forced to hand over power to Biden in 2020. Certainly he is petty and vindictive. But there have always been petty and vindictive people in power, and people that were too scared of them to speak their mind. But there have always been those who still dare to criticize people in power.

Trump resisted handing over power after the 2020 election, and to date, he has faced no significant legal consequences for those actions.

Given that lack of accountability, is it unreasonable to suggest the stakes will be even higher in 2028? If there were no consequences last time, why wouldn’t there be an even greater effort to challenge the outcome, should the need arise?

This isn’t a binary issue of whether the president is all-powerful or powerless. It’s a spectrum, and since 2020, we’ve objectively moved further toward the "all-powerful" end. The absence of meaningful checks and consequences has set a precedent, making it harder to draw the line in the future.

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Post by lenerdenator »

idhegeu wrote: post #993
lenerdenator wrote: post #970

It's so awesome to see the executive branch, in a move for clout, decide to ignore a law passed by bipartisan action in Congress, almost by dictorial fiat.

Don't forget that it was also unanimously upheld by the supreme court! Maybe this will be the hill he dies on. I can't bring myself to believe that he'll be allowed to literally become the day 1 dictator he that he promised he would.

m8 the only hill he'll die on is one of gold. The stooges have officially fallen in line in all of the places that matter: Congress, state houses, and federal courts.

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Post by neycoda »

appleorchard46 wrote: post #392
Brystephor wrote: post #34

What's that saying? The best way to get a promotion is to cause a problem and then fix it? Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly. Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down?

> Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_Un...

The government is not a company regardless of how many doofuses want to run it like one.

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Post by kouru225 »

flocciput wrote: post #958
kouru225 wrote: post #145

Completely unrelated but here’s the Wikipedia for an interesting book called The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-events in America: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Image:_A_Guide_to_Pseudo...

Similarly, you might be interested in the Adam Curtis documentary HyperNormalisation: https://vimeo.com/191817381

+1 to Adam Curtis. Binged everything he's ever made last year.

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

yalogin wrote: post #968

The US presidency fully devolved into a mafia this time around, no more mincing words or operating behind the scenes. Just like a mafia don demands, all fealty should be in public and fully subservient, no half measures. Till now, commenting or criticizing someone was fair game, not anymore. Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive. So no more commenting in public too. Not sure what this does to the pr…

> > Musk and trump have shown they can petty and vindictive

This is great. Sociologist tells us that any given person can only have 150 friends maximum, same goes with enemies , it will be very long 4 years for whoever sits in the 150 enemies at any given time, but all things considered they aren't people too dissimilar compared to Musk and Trump.

While petty revenge goes on, policy as always gets ignored and problems emerge (inflation, other pandemic etc) and the whole thing will collapse because at the end of the day even a perfect and experienced captain won't be able to steer perfectly a 400M people strong super tanker such as the US, let alone a vindicative one busy lashing out on his enemies aboard.

It will end up like the Evergreen in the Suez canal.

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

fundad wrote: post #920
throwawayq3423 wrote: post #824

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly Trump has never had any issue he has not been on both sides of. He has no ideology, he does what benefits him in the moment at any given moment.

According to the people I work with, all they care about is kids in cages. They value “tough talk” on immigration above anything else. Being influenced by Russia or China don’t even register.

> all they care about is kids in cages

To clear, they want kids in cages. Did I read that right?

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