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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by replwoacause »

xeckr wrote: post #990
replwoacause wrote: post #974

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s your impression of it?

So far, I don't get the impression that o1 pro mode is even close to 10x better than GPT-4/4o, despite costing that much more. Definitely nowhere close to the kind of leap we saw from GPT-3 to GPT-4. It's good as a programming assistant, but waiting 1 minute+ for the output does interrupt my workflow somewhat. It also doesn't have access to the memory function or web browsing.

Thanks, this tracks with what I’m seeing elsewhere too. I’ll stick with Claude for now since it trounced O1 anyway, at least for software dev tasks.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by dragonwriter »

fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

> OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation).

Also important to recognize that those clocks aren’t entirely separated. Monetization timeline is shorter if investors perceive that commodification makes future monetization less certain, whereas if investors perceive a strong moat against commodification, new financing without profitable monetization is practical as long as the market perceives a strong enough moat that investment in growth now means a sufficient increase in monetization down the road.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by Sateeshm »

kilroy123 wrote: post #14

I do wonder what effect this will have on furthering the divide between the "rich West" and the rest of the world. If everyone in the West has powerful AI and Agents to automate everything. Simply because we can afford it, but the rest of the world doesn't have access to it. What will that mean for everyone left behind?

No one is left behind, eventually. You think the ai companies don't want poor people's money?

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by dbbk »

submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

And how often is it wrong?

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by outside415 »

danpalmer wrote: post #515
fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

The problem is that OpenAI don't really have the enterprise market at all. Their APIs are closer in that many companies are using them to power features in other software, primarily Microsoft, but they're not the ones providing end user value to enterprises with APIs. As for ChatGPT, it's a consumer tool, not an enterprise tool. It's not really integrated into an enterprises' existing toolset, it's not integrated int…

have used it at 2 different enterprises internally, the issue is price more than anything. enterprises definitely do want to self host, but for frontier tech they want frontier models for solving complicated unsolved problems or building efficiencies in complicated workflows. one company had to rip it out for a time due to price, I no longer work there anymore though so can't speak on if it was reintegrated.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by superfrank »

BoorishBears wrote: post #486
superfrank wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard this a lot and so I switched to Claude for a month and was super disappointed. What are you mainly using ChatGPT for? Personally, I found Claude marginally better for coding, but far, far worse for just general purpose questions (e.g. I'm a new home owner and I need to winterize my house before our weather drops below freezing. What are some steps I should take or things I should look into?)

It's ironic because I never want to ask an LLM for something like your example general purpose question, where I can't just cheaply and directly test the correctness of the answer But we're hurtling towards all the internet's answers to general purpose questions being SEO spam that was generated by an LLM anyways. Since OpenAI probably isn't hiring as many HVAC technicians to answer queries as they are programmers, i…

> I can't just cheaply and directly test the correctness of the answer

I feel that, but I think for me the key is knowing that LLMs can be wrong and I should treat the answer as a starting point and not an actual expert. I find it really helpful for topics where I don't even know where to start because, like you said, most search engines are utter trash now.

For things like that, I find ChatGPT to be a good diving off point. For example, this is what I got when I asked:

``` Preparing your townhouse for winter involves addressing common issues associated with the region's wet and cool climate. Here's a concise checklist to help you get started:

1. Exterior Maintenance

Roof Inspection: Check for damaged or missing shingles to prevent leaks during heavy rains.

Gutter Cleaning: Remove leaves and debris to ensure proper drainage and prevent water damage.

Downspouts: Ensure they direct water away from the foundation to prevent pooling and potential leaks.

Siding and Trim: Inspect for cracks or gaps and seal them to prevent moisture intrusion.

2. Windows and Doors

Weatherstripping: Install or replace to seal gaps and prevent drafts, improving energy efficiency.

Caulking: Apply around window and door frames to block moisture and cold air.

3. Heating System

Furnace Inspection: Have a professional service your furnace to ensure it's operating efficiently.

Filter Replacement: Change furnace filters to maintain good air quality and system performance.

4. Plumbing

Outdoor Faucets: Disconnect hoses and insulate faucets to prevent freezing.

Pipe Insulation: Insulate exposed pipes, especially in unheated areas, to prevent freezing and bursting.

5. Landscaping

Tree Trimming: Prune branches that could break under snow or ice and damage your property.

Drainage: Ensure the yard slopes away from the foundation to prevent water accumulation.

6. Safety Checks

Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Detectors: Test and replace batteries to ensure functionality.

Fireplace and Chimney: If applicable, have them inspected and cleaned to prevent fire hazards.

By addressing these areas, you can help protect your home from common winter-related issues in Seattle's climate. ```

Once I dove into the links ChatGPT provided I found the detail I needed and things I needed to investigate more, but it saved 30 minutes of pulling together a starting list from the top 5-10 articles on Google.

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