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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Sorry but hi. It’s me, your girlfriend. Only I’m actually in an engineering role.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…

Assuming those prices are correct and the procedure is that convenient, it doesn't practically exist if most people aren't aware of it. From my casual observations most people suffer with bad batteries until buying a new model.

Could it be that you have some internal bias at play here? You don’t seem capable of accepting something that other people find pretty trivial.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Probably gonna upgrade from my iPhone 11 to a 16 Pro, seems like a good time to make the jump (also I'd need a battery replacement anyway and I rather spend that money on the new phone)

I upgraded from an iPhone Xs to an iPhone 15 Pro. The CPU speed was a major improvement to not have to wait for my phone any more, as well as better low-light photos.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Probably gonna upgrade from my iPhone 11 to a 16 Pro, seems like a good time to make the jump (also I'd need a battery replacement anyway and I rather spend that money on the new phone)

I upgraded from an iPhone Xs to an iPhone 15 Pro. The CPU speed was a major improvement to not have to wait for my phone any more, as well as better low-light photos.

Yeah the camera upgrade is the most I’m looking for, especially shooting videos

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

#995

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I surprised an 18 year old, intelligent and fairly tech savvy, when I showed him the share>find on page search function in Safari. Figured everyone knew that, or at least he and his demo would. No idea how wide spread it is, anecdotal etc.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

I am excited for the features announced. My current phone is the iPhone XS, which in September will be 6 years since its release.

Mind you, I try not to get excited for other releases when I made the decision to not yet upgrade my phone.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…

> Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones I don't think iMessage is big anywhere outside the US (which appears to account for about 9% of iPhone users). I don't think a majority of global users even knows there are different colors.

I'm a US iphone user and I had no idea what iMessage colors meant until journalists started making a big deal of it. Not that I doubt the stories about green-shaming, it just never occurred to me.

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I just made the switch to Android last week following the release of the pixel fold 9 pro. I couldn't wait for Apple to release a fold, they took too much time, and every new iPhone just looks like the one from 5 years ago. I haven't had an Android phone in something like 10 years and I really think that Apple is about to start losing its monopoly due to the folding phones. They're the main (only?) reason to move to…

> I really think that Apple is about to start losing its monopoly due to the folding phones

We're half a decade into folding phones and I've only seen a handful of them out in public. They're still too expensive, and they haven't solved the issue of the foldable screens being incredibly scratch prone, and having random failures where they spontaneously break along the fold crease. Not to mention none of the OEMs offer great solutions for pain-free screen replacements that I've seen.

I won't say Apple will never release a folding device, but I can't see foldables going beyond a niche enthusiast product in the long-term. Even though the folding screen technology has improved, it seems like there hasn't been much progress in resolving the issue that if you just press a nail into one you have a permanent mark in it. That already makes it a non-starter for women with long nails, who are constantly clicking their fingernails against their phone screen when they type.

Modern foldables have gotten pretty good at being a foldable. But the iPhone is damn close to perfection at being the candy-bar phone people are used to. Using it doesn't blow your mind, but I think if you gave most people a top-of-the-line foldable and then an iPhone to use for an extended period of time, they'll end up being happier with the iPhone.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Probably gonna upgrade from my iPhone 11 to a 16 Pro, seems like a good time to make the jump (also I'd need a battery replacement anyway and I rather spend that money on the new phone)

Same here, satellite messaging alone is enough to get me on this upgrade cycle. Beyond that though I am quite content with my 11 Pro, though I am looking forward to some of the AI stuff.

I'm in the same boat, got a battery replacement last year and am struggling to justify the expense but the satellite piece + AI integration may clinch it

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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post #329

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Heck, I have friends in tech that in the past did iPhone 4, 6, 8, whether you were an "even number" or an "odd number" iPhone buyer became something of a label. One of these guys is on the 11 Pro, has the 16 Plus in his cart, but is actively texting the group chat whether or not to go through with it. If you feel Apple isn't actively facing a xx% risk to their business by 2030, you're beside yourself. Its not that pe…

“Even” or “odd” number isn’t as applicable as it sounds, though I do remember if you were an “s” year or not. It was iPhone 3G, 3G S, 4, 4S, 5, 5S, 6, 6S, 7, 8/X, XS, 11, and standard annual numbering from the 11 on. In early days you’d ask if you were an “S” year or not. Only since the 11 could you ask whether you were “even” or “odd” without it meaning upgrades every 4 years.

What’s changed is that Apple increments the model number every year instead of every two years, and you can probably blame Samsung for that a bit. Your friends probably still upgrade every 4 years like we almost always used to. I remember getting the 3G for the network improvement, the 3G S for the speed bump and video recording, the 4 for Siri, the 4S for a speed bump, … back then it was often the case that the non-S model was a new design with last year’s chip, and the S model was a speed bump with last year’s design.

If anything’s changed, it’s that they often spec bump the processor every year in minor ways, instead of every 2 years, and the increases are steadily more incremental than they used to be. If you ask me, it’s because Apple doesn’t have competition in the mobile phone CPU space yet. (Or ever, while Qualcomm holds so many patents…)

Also it’s more clear than ever before that the iPhone X, Max, Pro series are all ways to ask for more money for the exact same chip/product. Some years the Pro is significantly faster because it gets the new CPU first, but by the next year both Pro and non-Pro end up getting the same CPU for cost reasons. It’s telling that most years Apple doesn’t claim a speed increase between the Pro and non-Pro models. For example, if I recall correctly the only difference for the iPhone 13 was actually software. Likewise in this generation (16) it feels like the only difference between Pro and non-Pro is the SoC binning and the binning of the quality of the OLED in minor ways.

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