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Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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Get a heat gun and remove the NAND. Then sell the rest of it to a local repair store or just give them for free if it's an old Mac Pro. The parts in your Mac Pro are something someone can reuse to restore their Mac Pro instead of a landfill. Not every part is security related. Also Apple may take the Mac Pro itself and give you store credit cause they do recycle it.

i don't think you can do that. there was just a video on here last week of a repair shop drilling the memory out, as that was the only way to remove it without damaging the motherboard.

Or hot air pencil if it doesn't get hot enough.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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Apple was really losing me with the last generation of intel macbooks but these m class processors are so good they've got me locked in all over again

The M1 Max that I have is easily the greatest laptop I've ever owned. It is fast and handles everything I've ever thrown at it (I got 32 GB RAM), it never, ever gets hot, I've never heard a fan in 2+ years (maybe a very soft fan if you put your ear next to it). And the battery life is so incredible that I often use it unplugged. It's just been a no-compromise machine. And I was thinking of upgrading to an M3 but will…

M1 Max here too. I don't see the point of if/when M4 Max comes out as an upgrade because these updates are too frequent and too small in performance bumps to be justified. Not speed, RAM, storage, or features are a limiting factor. They're going to have to create more "only works on X" iDevice upgrade lock-in killer features to get people to upgrade artificially and unnecessarily.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

#993

As an engineer, I find it extremelly frustrating to read Apple’s marketing speak. It almost sounds like ChatGPT and StarTrek techno-babble. Engineers cannot stomach reading the text, and non engineers wont bother reading it anyway. Whats wrong with plain old bullet-points and sticking to the technical data?

Apple is no longer run by SJ. That train has sailed. Marketing and design wank wall-to-wall.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

#994

Maybe I'm getting blasé about the ever improving technical capabilities, but I find the most astounding thing is that the M4 chip, an OLED screen on one side, and aluminium case on the other can fit in 5.1mm!

Pretty much. We've reached peak technical capabilities and hype. Perhaps new sensors, make it sprout propellers and turn into a UAV that follows you around the room and can never be dropped, or at least make it waterproof to 4m.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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I’ve got an iPad mini. The main issue is the screen scratches. The other main issue is the screen is like a mirror, so it can’t be used everywhere to watch videos (which is the main thing the iPad is useful for). The third main issue is that videos nowadays are way too dark and you can’t adjust brightness/gamma on the iPad to compensate. (Notice a theme?)

search amazon for matte glass screen protectors. thank me later

How does one differentiate between cheap and good products? How do I know they actually work? How does one know they don‘t destroy the coating on apple devices?

Apple doesn‘t even sell an official matte screen protector last I checked.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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> 8gb of ram. WTF? Why so little? That's insane to me, that's the amount of RAM you get with a mid-range android phone.

Is a Pixel 8 a mid-range Android phone? Mine shipped with 8GB of RAM, and even with my frankly insane Chrome habits (I'm currently sitting at around 200 tabs) I'm only using about five and half gigabytes, and it runs a hell of a lot smoother than other phones with more RAM that I've used. There's absolutely nothing a mobile device does that should require that much memory. That shitty OEMs bloat the hell out of their…

Also, with an SSD, memory swapping is totally doable.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

#998

All this power and I still can't play decent games on my macbook.

They don't care because they can't make money off it. They know very well that Steam would outsell their App Store offering so greatly (with good reasons) if they supported Vulkan that they don't see the point. They push their Metal API not just for the hardware matchup but because it allows them to trap developers into optimizing for their technology only and getting them to sell their games in the App Store. Because the minute devs start looking into options for cross-platform dev/deploy their Metal/App Store combo is just not very enticing compared to the alternative.

But they would rather lie about caring for this use case and they would need to have better GPUs in the first place, but at least it looks like this should be improved with M4.

For all the big talk they give, their GPU in the entry level Apple Silicon chip doesn't even match the power of a current gen console (either PS5 or Xbox series X have better GFLOPS). The Max versions are better but they only come in devices starting at over 2.5k€ starting price (still with lots of compromises most likely) and those get absolutely trounced by hardware at this price point that features dedicated GPUs, obviously.

But they will very much remind you about how great battery life is, because it is all that matters, right? right? (Desktops, hello?)

Unless you can justify one of the Max variants for other things, there is not much point bothering with it. If you really want a Mac, it will still be better, faster and cheaper to just buy the most basic Mac you can get away with and get a console or a custom PC with the rest of the money.

It is very sad, but this is the state of things. Gaming on Apple was never very good, but at least before Apple Silicon there were some variants of iMacs/MBPs that were decent enough and not breaking the bank too much (with Windows support for even better performance).

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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No mention of battery life. They keep making stuff thin, and unupgradeable. What's the point of buying an apple device that is going to wear out in 5 years?

To be fair every MacBook I’ve had has lasted 10 years minimum

That will also be true for any laptop that is not bottom of the barrel and got taken care of correctly by its owner. I have non techies' friends using Windows laptops who greatly outlived any Mac laptop because of software support anyway, and as long as they are content with the performance they still work just fine.

The MacBook's lasting longer is just a meme at this point, any laptop of comparable price/performance will last just as long if you don't trash for some reason.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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Why are we running these high end CPUs on tablets without the ability to run pro apps like Xcode? Until I can run Xcode on an iPad (not Swift Playgrounds), it's a pass for me. Hear me out: I don't want to bring both an iPad and Macbook on trips, but I need Xcode. Because of this, I have to pick the Macbook every time. I want an iPad, but the iPad doesn't want me.

“…but the iPad doesn’t want me” is exactly it; I used iPad from the very first one - that chunky, hard-edged aluminum and glass slate, and remained a heavy user up until a few years ago. For half a decade, the iPad was my only computer on the go. I spent two years abroad with a 12.9” Pro. The conclusion I came to was that I loved the hardware but found the software a huge letdown for doing real work; I tried SSHing i…

This might be possible someday: https://ipadlinux.org/
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