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I work across the street from a well-known security research group who has been on HN front page before. Every one of them uses iPhones because they cannot be rooted and are encrypted by default. Venn of old people and at least one group of security professionals.
> cannot be rooted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking
Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU
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#992Oh the horror, it must be so hard for Apple to cave to an open system for these people. What will they ever do without their unbelievable tax on app profits simply for existing on their nearly unlimited real estate, that is, the web?! I have no sympathy for their concerns. I can download apps on my MacBook machines all day from many different sources, and it harms no one. While I understand the associated risks, comp…
You are not a big fan of the EU after this? They seem to care more about privacy and rights of the people within the majority of the countries that make up the EU then any other outside country that I could name. Then again, I'm not American so I can easily see the influence your country has on most other countries, so to say the "EU have enormous capacity for overreach at the expense of participating countries and t…
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True, though the situation isn't exactly equivalent. Using another real estate analogy - Imagine you bought a house from Fruit Builders company. The house came with a pool. Now unlike every other pool in existence, this is a very special pool that just really cares about your privacy and security a lot. It won't let you use any random pool toy (it has lasers), no it must be a well-behaved toy that is rigorously teste…
Except in the real world, toys generally can’t do things like steal your private data and send confidential data to third parties. If you’re going to come up with analogies, at least do something that is remotely applicable.
There was a story that a Bitcoin wallet in the store was stealing peoples funds and had Apple had be notified at least 12 days prior. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39685272
So the so-called security is a red herring.
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The premise of a walled garden is to keep unwanted things out, not to imprison you inside. Apple maintaining a store where they've vetted everything in it is fine, and if you like you can refuse to install anything from outside of it. That doesn't justify them prohibiting you from installing anything from outside of it. It should be up to you. If you wanted to, you could even configure your phone to not add any new s…
I'm not arguing that it shouldn't be opened up. I'm just stating that by being a walled garden it is safer. When things eventually open up, when Apple is finally forced to permit other app stores on their mobile devices, I'll take a hard pass on them.
There are still scam apps on Apple and apparently they don't get removed promptly either. This one was reported 12 days before the post was made.
Many of the comments in the thread are telling the poster that he "should have verified the app"
>It's possible that it's just because it was literally called "Bitcoin Wallet", >an exact match for your search, or boosted by fake reviews, or it was actually >an ad that you didn't notice. Though it shouldn't have gotten past review at >all >But I don't really understand why you'd blindly trust some random app?
So not safer, just more restrictive.
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no, they shouldn't, this will affect customers who already purchased the product and have no fault in this silly war that apple wants to start. no matter what they do, it should only apply to new devices.
Excuse me, Apple started it? That's absurd. Apple have been running their little fiefdom mostly unchanged for almost fifteen years and it's only in the past few years that the EU has chosen to intervene in their marketplace. The EU started this fight; Apple is just doing whatever they can to resist change.
You literally just described Apple "starting it". They took the initial action (~15 years ago, by your words), starting it, and the other parties reacted, after that action.
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Can you elaborate on that filtering? I agree with you that the App Store is full of chaff, but I don't understand why there'd be a causal relationship between a highly centralized App Store and sleazy apps.
Indeed. Put another way, how would lifting Apple's restrictions result in an improved wheat-to-chaff ratio? I can't see how it would increase the amount of wheat, nor can I see how it would reduce the amount of chaff.
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To answer directly, I actually really love the Framework conceptually. What they're doing is immensely important for notebooks, and I'd love to see Apple follow suit one day (but I doubt that'll ever happen). I just can't stand Linux. I've tried several distros and after using macOS since 2009 and Windows since 1995, I just can't be bothered by all the things Linux distros lack, if muscle memory for the other two are…
Valid points. Out of curiosity, which distros have you tried?
That was a few years ago. Anything older I've forgotten honestly at this point. It's been a long time, and I'm certain things are probably better these days, but I have absolutely no reason to switch. My muscle memory and setups on my current machines are too good to let go of.
I have a Steam Deck -- but their experience is so tailored that I'm not sure it counts. I'm not actively using the desktop environment unless I need to use a different game platform. I wouldn't be using this machine for work at all though.
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Indeed. Put another way, how would lifting Apple's restrictions result in an improved wheat-to-chaff ratio? I can't see how it would increase the amount of wheat, nor can I see how it would reduce the amount of chaff.
Logically this makes sense, but I can't imagine how many decent apps Apple may have rejected for other petty reasons, only to accept the ones that are lambasting people with rentware and other issues the OP mentioned.
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Altserver+Altstore. Altserver will resign your apps, and altstore can background "refresh" your apps so they _shouldn't_ expire on your. It refreshes when your on the same wifi network as altserver, for me it works most of the time, but sometimes I need to kick altserver to get the phone to see it. Doesn't fix the issue, and its a limitation that annoys the hell out of me too, but at least helps mitigate it. (Though…
AltStore is a bad joke, you can only install 2 apps (three, minus the altstore app), and you have to connect your phone to a MacOS computer and run the app every week. Just let me click on an IPA to install it, it's really not that deep!
But Altstore does run on Windows, Mac and Linux (I use a helper script to run it on my home server)
These are all work around to Apple imposed limitations, it’s by no means perfect, but until Apple change their mind (or are forced to change their mind) your alternatives are jailbreaking (which I don’t think there are any public jailbreaks of the latest hardware/OS) or swap to Android (which I’m considering doing) or pay Apple $100 a year for your own dev cert with less restrictions.
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> cannot be rooted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking
Remind me what the bounty is for an iPhone jailbreak right now, would you please?
https://zerodium.com/images/zerodium_prices_mobiles.png
Seems iPhone exploits got cheaper because they're too abundant: https://twitter.com/Zerodium/status/1260541578747064326
Apple has released phones with major vulnerabilities hard-coded in the silicon. When the checkra1n jailbreak was released, the only fix was to buy a new phone because it exploited flaws in the bootrom & secure enclave silicon.
https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2019/09/new-ios-explo...