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Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#991

For me, this stood out in the announcement: > In a statement, the board of directors said: “OpenAI was deliberately structured to advance our mission: to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all humanity. The board remains fully committed to serving this mission. Why would they include that? Maybe its just filler, but if not then it is possible that there has been more than a simple disagreement about…

Because it's the reason he got fired.

https://www.plainsite.org/posts/aaron/r8huu7s/

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post #903

At the moment this thread is the third most highly voted ever on HN. 1. (6015) Stephen Hawking dying 2. (5771) Apple's letter related to the San Bernardino case 3. (4629) Sam Altman getting fired from OpenAI (this thread) 4. (4338) Apple's page about Steve Jobs dying 5. (4310) Bram Moolenaar dying https://hn.algolia.com/

I’ve been pondering a more accurate metric for comparing stories over time. The raw point value doesn’t work as there’s inflation due to a larger user base. The value needs to be adjusted to factor that in that change. Something like dividing by the sum of all upvotes in some preceding time period.

Maybe also somehow divide by the size of monthly occurring topics like "Who is hiring"?

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#993

At the moment this thread is the third most highly voted ever on HN. 1. (6015) Stephen Hawking dying 2. (5771) Apple's letter related to the San Bernardino case 3. (4629) Sam Altman getting fired from OpenAI (this thread) 4. (4338) Apple's page about Steve Jobs dying 5. (4310) Bram Moolenaar dying https://hn.algolia.com/

5581 now. Looks set at #3, as other posts update the story. Aggregate would be #1.

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Just a fantasy my mind goes to: The Pentagon calls up Sam Altman and offers a very lucrative contract for an AI to oversee a fleet of networked drones that can also function semi-autonomously. Sam Altman does not tell the board. Reality might, of course, be very different.

(For example, the roles could be reversed)

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#995
Last week lcamtuf published a blog post on corporate life which exactly fits here. Whatever you do as a staff for your company, they still can fire you easily. Corporates want you to consider them as family, but they don't do it themselves.

https://lcamtuf.substack.com/p/on-corporate-life

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#996

Altman was at APEC yesterday saying "humanity is on the edge of destroying itself" or similar. A few things that could lead to the company throwing shade: 1. Real prospects of OpenAI progress have been undersold, and that Altman and cofounders sought to buy time by slow-rolling the board 2. Real profitability is under/overestimated 3. The board was not happy with the "doom and gloom" narrative to world leaders 4. Wor…

Turns out it was 5 or a vague reading of 1. Ilya Sutskever (cofounder/board member) had safety debates with Altman, driving Ilya to convince other board members it was in their best interest to play hard-ball with Altman over safety concerns.

Looks like a board over-reach considering the amount of investors who have come out favoring Altman... if Altman returns it is likely the board will be overhauled.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#997

Someone probably already suggested this, but I haven’t seen it yet, so I’ll throw a wild speculation into the mix: I saw a comment (that I can’t find now) wondering if Sam might have been fired for copyright reasons. Pretty much all the big corpuses that are used in LLM training contain copyrighted material, but that’s not a surprise and I really don’t think they’d kick him out over that. But what if he had a team of…

Also, it isn't uniquely attributable to Sam. They all do it, use copyrighted material, for training data. By "all", I mean all LLMs (to my knowledge). They don't do it intentionally, but it gets scooped up with everything else.

Hmmm, just thinking... Adam d'Angelo is one of the board members of OpenAI. He has the entire corpus of Quora content to use as training data, i.e. the rights to it are his. But I doubt that only Quora content was used by OpenAI during the past 8 years or so since it was founded! And the content on Quora isn't that great anyway...

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#998

I wonder if this is related: https://x.com/growing_daniel/status/1725618106427683149?s=20 When I googled his name I saw the same cached text show up. EDIT: As a few have pointed out, this looks like text from a tweet he quoted, and it's incorrectly showing as the description under his google search result.

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Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#1000
I guess maybe I can appreciate the candor used here, but holy smokes! Telling the entire world that you fired the CEO because you think they are a liar is really unprofessional, in my opinion. You just don't do this. You come to an agreement quietly and the CEO moves on "for personal reasons" or something and people read between the lines. I would not trust anyone on the board to not throw me under the bus after a thing like this happens.
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