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Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by lnauta »

After watching MKBHD talking about how amazing the eye tracking is, my first thought is:

When will apple start selling ads? They can use the eye tracking as feedback to advertisers, allowing apple to ask more money than non-eye tracked ads because they can prove you actually watched the ad.

Next you can track what people are looking at in netflix shows and adjust the shows to make them even more algorithmicly optimized (I dont even want to go there).

Interesting tech, but I think apple has something in mind we'll only realise a few years down the road (like how the app store turned out).

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by elicash »

lnauta wrote: post #991

After watching MKBHD talking about how amazing the eye tracking is, my first thought is: When will apple start selling ads? They can use the eye tracking as feedback to advertisers, allowing apple to ask more money than non-eye tracked ads because they can prove you actually watched the ad. Next you can track what people are looking at in netflix shows and adjust the shows to make them even more algorithmicly optimiz…

In the keynote, they went out of their way to say that they won't give this data to websites, only click data.

This, of course, is different. To the extent they can prevent it, they will. But I'm not sure what data app developers NEED to receive for this to work, and certainly any of that info could get passed to a developer.

Anyway, Apple has an interest in locking that down as much as possible and expressed a desire to do so. We'll see what happens.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by pzo »

marricks wrote: post #394

So many technologies Apple has launched in the past 5 years seemed nifty & weird but were all being built to lead up to this: - Spatial Audio - Is any one a huge fan of this? It doesn't matter a ton outside of AR but matters greatly within it - Side Car - mirroring to a local apple device. It's useful as a second monitor but... mirroring your iPad or MacBook into VR and typing on it. Super useful. - FaceID - is it re…

Other things that come to my head:

- truedepth 3d camera and lidar

- 3d scene reconstruction

- arkit framework

- wifi 6 for higher bandwidth

- Uwb sensor with Proximity and orientation detection

- high fps motion sensors

- game controllers support for dualshock and joycons

- ultra low latency audio on iOS (since like forever - android improved but still behind)

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by heatmiser »

d3nj4l wrote: post #69

The weird price fixation and doomerism here is weird. People said the AirPods were overpriced; half my uni has one. People said the AirPods Max were overpriced, and I see it all the time in co-work spaces and libraries. People said the M1 Pros were overpriced; they're literally everywhere, used by almost all of the professionals I know. People said the Pro Display XDR is excessively overpriced; more than a few consum…

> That aside, I'm curious whether it will be more like the mac or more like the iPhone. Will we be able to "sideload", i.e. install things without papa apple's approval? Can we use a web engine that's not WebKit? Things like that will make the difference for me, not the price.

This is where the product gives me pause. I am very happy to early-adopt this thing but if I cannot "do what I want" then I will pretty disappointed as I would not expect a comparable product to enter the market for another 5+ years as all this specialized hardware experiences commoditization.

I am very happy using my Linux desktop, slightly less happy with my Linux laptop (fingers crossed the 15" Framework changes that" and am not kidding myself by holding any expectations for what the F/OSS A/VR future will look like in the near-to-mid-term.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by Diesel555 »

llm_nerd wrote: post #102

It's interesting that HN is completely overloaded right now...with people coming to announce how unimpressed they are and how it isn't for them. The displays in this device are crazy . I honestly didn't think they'd be able to put together a value proposition, but I think they legitimately did. It's super expensive, and some of the cost of the device seems kind of silly (if I heard correctly, the display on the front…

> did they talk about using it as a display for a Mac?

Yes, in the keynote at 1:32:02. It discusses how looking at your computer then turns the Vision Pro into a display.

https://www.youtube.com/live/GYkq9Rgoj8E?feature=share

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by fio_ini »

llm_nerd wrote: post #102

It's interesting that HN is completely overloaded right now...with people coming to announce how unimpressed they are and how it isn't for them. The displays in this device are crazy . I honestly didn't think they'd be able to put together a value proposition, but I think they legitimately did. It's super expensive, and some of the cost of the device seems kind of silly (if I heard correctly, the display on the front…

you can (over simplified, tech people yell at me or whatever, but) display your macbook screen inside Apple Vision as a screen/monitor/window, whatever it's called same way you would an app.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by [deleted] »

bgribble wrote: post #619

The Simula One ( https://simulavr.com ) has been targeting similar productivity use cases for a while. I've been following it from a distance; I have to wear reading glasses for computer work now, and I would love to be able to focus on a virtual screen 2 meters or so away for coding etc. Whether I could stand wearing the headset all day is another question. The Simula folks think that there's a lower limit of about…

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Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by lannisterstark »

Hippocrates wrote: post #444

3,500 seems SO worth it if this can be used to comfortably replace external displays for long periods of time. If I don't need external monitors, I don't need my large desk, and I don't need my home office, which adds like 100k to the price of any home I'd consider. I'd just work from a bedroom, a closet, or my deck if I had this. It would be amazing if I could use this to do more work outside, while benefitting from…

> I don't need my large desk, and I don't need my home office

Idk man, I'd always prefer having a dedicated work space. I even have a separate 'tinkering' space in my garage purely so I have a frame of mind of 'what' I am working on.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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Post by synaesthesisx »

Again, for those complaining about price - the current (and far less capable) Microsoft HoloLens is also $3500. I've personally used and interacted with the HoloLens and was thoroughly impressed, however the leaps in optics & tracking Apple has pulled off make the Vision Pro quite compelling.
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