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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Its a real bummer with SF, but the problems are totally self inflicted. If the politics were of a different breed I could see it being one of the best cities to live in the US, let alone the world. Having worked there for close to a decade the stuff I have seen was really depressing. I visited my cousin who works at Ouster nearby for lunch one day and was wondering what all these white casings were littering the grou…

I've detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35454781 and moved it to the top level (just for technical reasons - the first page of the thread is currently too comment-heavy).

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#992

Can we take a minute to re-direct this conversation away from just the politics of SF? I want to draw attention to Bob Lee, a well-respected technologist and prototype hacker, always curious and sharing lots of interesting technical developments. He was a great role model for how Engineers should be respected in an executive capacity as he advanced his career from 'Software' to 'Product'. His efforts contributed to t…

I wish some of the comments from below were merged into this comment for better visibility of those comments. There are things in those comments about what he did in his lifetime that are great to hear about. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35454844 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35454971 3. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35451821 4. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35449584

Here is a quote from an article describing the security camera footage of the incident...

https://sfstandard.com/criminal-justice/video-appears-to-sho...

"Surveillance footage reviewed by The Standard shows Lee, who had already been stabbed, walking up Main Street away from the Bay Bridge.....Lee crosses the intersection at Harrison Street and walks up to a parked white Camry with its hazard lights flashing.

Lee then lifts his shirt—as if to show the driver his wound and ask for help—and falls to the ground after the car drives away, the footage shows. He gets up and walks back toward the Bay Bridge before falling to the ground again ....

At some point, Lee dialed 911 and repeatedly screamed for help, saying he needed to go to the hospital....

Lee was unconscious when officers found him on the ground, police said."

So looks like he was stabbed and he was wandering around in the middle of San Fran trying to get someone to help him even lifting up his shirt to show people his wound and no one would help him..

The reason our large cities are hellscapes is because in part all institutions censor dissenting comments.. cough cough cough cough...

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#993
I have such fond memories of my (work) visit in San Francisco in June 2015 during the week of the NBA Finals. I didn't know much about the city but I thought it couldn't be any worse than Manhattan.

The only time I got sketched out was when I was walking up Filmore St. near the McDonalds. Some caricature looking fella started calling me ching chong trying to mess with me. I crossed the street before crossing the light and just walked on the other side pretending that didn't hear anything (earbuds) while keeping an eye on him.

I always thought that I can go anywhere I want after growing up and living around slums in the third world at that time but every place has its own unique set of dangers.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#994
Where to start? I have such a special place in my heart for Bob. He was brilliant. He was a gentleman. He was kind. Shining. Thoughtful and so so very generous. On more than one occasion he was a safe place to play, a deeply heart centered friend, and always offered genuine parts of himself to our interactions. Seeing Bob was always a bright spot in my San Francisco life, even when it was dark to be there. And now, when darkness seems to have won a battle, his light will always live on in our hearts. Thank you for being such a wonderful man, Bob. I love you.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I come from Ciudad Juarez. Between 2008-2011, the city was the murder capital in the world and basically unlivable. My brother and I were no longer living there because we were in college. My parents decided to send my sister, then starting highschool, to a city in central Mexico with friends of the family to avoid having her grow up in what was a life and death environment. My parents stayed. Mexicans speak a lot ab…

One thing that I want to add, is how much harder it is to live in such environment. Every door needs to be reinforced, bars on windows are more common, expensive locks in residential buildings. Someone stranded on the side of the road, but you don’t want to take chances trying to help. Every transaction is much more difficult and expensive.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#996

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

I've lived in SF for almost 10 years, and it saddens me to live in such low trust community because of all the crime. It changes people. I've had my car stolen once and broken into several times. I've had two bikes stolen, once out of an office building, and another time through an iron gate that blocks my doorway. My neighbor had his motorcycle stolen out of his garage. I've caught someone stealing packages from a b…

I'm with you, people don't even report crime here because it's so commonplace. What a sad state of affairs.

Fact: the last 4 out of 7 friends I had that got their car broken into didn't bother reporting. They just fixed their car and went about their life.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#997
post #646

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

SF does not have many violent crimes. It’s mostly car break ins. Regardless I’m waiting to hear if his wallet or phone was stolen. If it’s still on him I’m more suspicious this was just some random mugging gone wrong.

He was reportedly seen trying to wave down a car for help after being stabbed (on camera footage). I suspect if he could do that, then he could've easily called 911 instead, but couldn't. It's very likely he was mugged, stabbed in the process, and died due to excessive blood loss.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#998

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

I've lived in SF for almost 10 years, and it saddens me to live in such low trust community because of all the crime. It changes people. I've had my car stolen once and broken into several times. I've had two bikes stolen, once out of an office building, and another time through an iron gate that blocks my doorway. My neighbor had his motorcycle stolen out of his garage. I've caught someone stealing packages from a b…

> You won't find that I had to chase away someone trying to break into my U-Haul in any crime statistic report.

This is known as the “dark figure of crime” btw: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_figure_of_crime

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#999

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

I've lived in SF for almost 10 years, and it saddens me to live in such low trust community because of all the crime. It changes people. I've had my car stolen once and broken into several times. I've had two bikes stolen, once out of an office building, and another time through an iron gate that blocks my doorway. My neighbor had his motorcycle stolen out of his garage. I've caught someone stealing packages from a b…

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Everyone commenting on here about how bad things are in SF has likely rarely or never stepped into the core parts of Protrero Hill, Noe Valley, Richmond, Sunset, Glenn Park, Forest Hill etc. SF is a tale of two cities divided by natural barriers. There is a side to the city where you see almost no drugs, or homelessness. This is not a dismissal of the real issues facing the city but an acknowledgement that it is stil…

I'm sorry, I'm glad you've had it fine but that's bullshit, I've lived in those areas and have seen rampant crime that would not be tolerated in most other cities. This city has lost it.

Well this comment has aged well. I bought into the narrative. Hope to learn from this.

Though I supposed my concerns were misplaced, but not totally incorrect? Shrug.

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