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Re: Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes

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This actually happened because Christians (maybe other religions too?) got a reputation for being bad tippers. IDK, maybe it was something about already giving 10% before tax to God to take care of orphans and widows, but seeing their pastor and politician in highend cars and suits? IDK. So as a counter to that reputation pastors began to admonish folks to tip well, to show them the love of Jesus as 20%.

As far as bad reputation, don't forget all the fake-money evangelizing pamphlets.

I don't know what these are, can you please expand?

Re: Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes

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> It is also elitist to not accept cash I think you're ascribing malice to something that is largely a function of cost, safety, and hassle. Yes, credit card fees are not free, but: 1. Managing cash is not free either. At the end of the shift / end of the day, you need employees to count cash and reconcile the amounts with receipts. Cash in excess of what the business wants to keep on hand needs to be transported to…

> Related, there's also the risk of being paid with counterfeit bills. Granted, there's also the risk of stolen credit cards being used, and the business is usually forced to eat the cost of that. So this might turn out to be a wash (or perhaps, I suspect, this is actually worse with credit cards). I'm curious if credit cards actually are worse. I haven't had anyone ask for my ID to use a credit card in a long while.…

Letting people in to your store means they can steal stuff. Things that you sell can break. Windows are a hazard in your saloon. I have seen 1 single counterfeit USD in my life and i've worked plenty a register. I have seen innumerable amount of credit card fraud. There's pros and cons to all forms of currency, and not accepting cash does eliminate some of those cons but also its pros.

Re: Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes

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> I'd donate to charities on my own. But lots of people won't think to do so, and it can raise awareness too. And in terms of payment processing fees it is probably much more efficient to include a small amount extra in a larger preexisting transaction and pool it up across customers than if everyone were to go out and donate $0.50 or whatever on their own.

The problem is the store charaties are always awful. I donate to local charities that actually do good work with it (Non-affiliated-beyond-being-donor plug: https://www.nuci.org/ ), not to bloated “awareness” charaties like Komen.

Really, St Jude Children's hospital is awful? Would you like to give some sources for that? That's the only charity I get asked about often enough to remember and I'm happy to see companies going to bat for them (at least unless someone such as yourself manages to convince me of how awful they are).

Re: Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes

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Guessing it's this: https://awakening.bar/

Yep. Didn't want to share it because it's embarrassing how taped together that page is, but I had to put something up in an afternoon, because in the absence of a website people were taking photos of the menu on the iPads to take home.

Looks great!

I'd just remove the sticky header with the blur effect and those shadows below the cards. Maybe make the menu categories collapsible. This is going in a modern minimalist direction which I prefer in such cases. If you need any design tips, feel free to ping!

Re: Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes

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I used to work as a janitor for minimum wage. I never got a tip. How was that fair? Did I not provide a service? You sound like someone who used to work as an employee who received tips.

I wasn't saying that was fair, and have supported raising the minimum wage every time it's been on the ballot. A key difference is that in most of the U.S. restaurant workers have a much lower minimum wage with the expectation that tips will make up for that. That's why I mentioned the difference between what you should do before anything changes and afterwards: if someone's base pay is $2.30/hour and tips are suppos…

Okay, yeah, sure - it's a very good point. I live in WA, where the minimum wage is the same for every profession. So, that argument just isn't valid for me - unfortunately.

States like Alabama keep finding new ways to screw states like Washington.

Re: Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes

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post #495

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Not just Japan. Basically most of the world except Noth America pay their waiters wages that don't depend on tips. Sure some places allow additional tipping, but it's not a mandatory fee and the workers don't have to get it to make a living.

The mandatory minimum wage where I live is $18.69/hr, which is higher than the median wage in many European countries. Any tips or mandatory service charges are always in addition to this and many waiters make more than the minimum wage. Replacing tipping with a 20% mandatory service charge -- tried many times here -- results in the employees earning less money, empirically. Eliminating tipping is unpopular with empl…

>The mandatory minimum wage where I live is $18.69/hr, which is higher than the median wage in many European countries.

That may true in raw numbers but is it still true when you consider that a European worker will have coverage for health, retirement, paid annual leave, paid medical leave, will have access to unemployment benefits, will get subsidised lunches (in some countries) and will be protected by laws that enforce overtime pay and their rights to not be fired without justifiable cause.

Raw numbers are not the full picture.

Re: Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes

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American taxes vary way more than in Europe. You walk a mile to a nearby town and suddenly it's a different tax. Not by much, it's like less than one percent, but still.

Taxes can varies from counties to counties? Ha, I never noticed that. Kinda goes to show that it's not helping to display them like that.

Brazil is also a federation, it is larger than continental US, and has much more complicated taxes that also vary per state and per municipality (county) -- and yet we have "European-style" laws that require that the advertised price is the full price. It has been like this since forever.

If Brazil, a much poorer country in comparison, can do it then so does the US. I think that arguments in the contrary don't hold any water and are poor rationalizations ("US is special").

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Holy shit, I just got here (El Segundo) from DC. I may forgo The Boy and the Bear tomorrow morning for Awakening Coffee.

Wow this takes me back. I went to the Boy and Bear in Culver all the time back when it opened. Eventually my tastes grew beyond their coffee quality, but still some good memories there.

What have you graduated/ascended to?

Re: Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes

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Holy shit, I just got here (El Segundo) from DC. I may forgo The Boy and the Bear tomorrow morning for Awakening Coffee.

If you do, I'll probably make your coffee tomorrow :)

I ended up not having time :(
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