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Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by walkhour »

kumarvvr wrote: post #962
walkhour wrote: post #899

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What they argue is that more parties doesn't end up making as much of a difference, and in the end parties just fall in two blocks. Just because there are more parties magic won't just happen, voters will be better represented, people will be less divided. Countries with dozens of parties in parliament have gone to civil war.

I am from India, and no such thing has happened here and we are a multi party democracy for over 70 years.

That's a good anecdote but useless when it comes to comparing the advantages of many parties vs two.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by jessaustin »

Mediaite has a solid takedown of the formulaic campaign to mildly criticize TFA. [0] It's interesting how much of the formula has reappeared in this comment thread! Some HN commentators appear to be doing, on an amateur basis, what lots of other people get paid to do...

[0] https://www.mediaite.com/online/the-twenty-seven-most-embarr...

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by mzs »

mrcwinn wrote: post #271

It's pretty odd that the Verge and Platformer have had wall to wall coverage of every moment of Twitter the past few weeks, including live-tweeting content sourced from (perhaps appropriately) disgruntled ex-employees. And yet here, silence so far. It goes to show what we already knew. Every media outlet (or blogger, or influencer) has an audience, caters to that audience, grows that audience, monetizes that audience…

Cause he was given an exclusive to this spoon-fed narrative.

>What I can say is that in exchange for the opportunity to cover a unique and explosive story, I had to agree to certain conditions.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/note-to-readers-8d4

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by mzs »

phphphphp wrote: post #51

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598843310042279936 Jack was, quite famously, half-assing his leadership of Twitter for years. There was no secret, it was constantly discussed here on HN: how Jack’s inability to lead can be described as an “amazing subplot” rather than an embarrassing stain on Jack is beyond me — I guess because Elon loves Jack, this has to be framed positively?

And then Taibbi deleted his next tweet where he himself emailed Jack tens days after the NYP story about it which contradicts a lot of what Taibbi is saying.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by tmaly »

RonaldRaygun wrote: post #767
tmaly wrote: post #383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems this could have had a big impact on the election. Now that we know the laptop is real, what do you think will come of it?

Well, we all know what Hunter Biden's genitals look like now. So there's that I guess. I suppose Musk is saving the real bombshell for... later?

I think there is a credibility question. If Elon or Matt are not willing to release the raw sources, how can anyone trust them?

Matt said that the Trump administration also participated in the censoring, yet he did not provide one single example.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by dkn775 »

chrisbaker98 wrote: post #705
cm2187 wrote: post #665

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These policies were always a pretext. The two major social networks blocking the same story at the same time citing different policies that are obviously inconsistently applied (did Twitter block the story about Trump's leaked tax returns? Did facebook block Biden when he claimed that covid would be gone once everyone was vaccinated?). These emails show twitter executives puzzled by the application of those policies.…

> citing different policies that are obviously inconsistently applied Here's a better example: the Canadian trucker protests. GiveSendGo was hacked, and the names of people who had donated to the protests were made public - and Twitter had no problem with those "hacked materials" being shared on its platform. I'd think that if there was ever a reason to block the publication of hacked materials, it would be to preven…

Not to mention the propublica / Parler Jan 6th story when they posted all that hacked information. On Twitter the story was spread wide. I always thought that was suspect

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by jessaustin »

nirvgorilla wrote: post #733

Yeah, so? It's THEIR website. It doesn't have to be fair. Why are all these brand new people to the internet trying to tell websites they have to allow things that they don't want? As much as I hate censorship, the fact is it's THEIR website and they can do whatever they want with it. I don't have to go there. I can make my own website if I don't like a particular site. As a user of the internet since 1995, I don't f…

As a user of the internet since 1995...

Since I had a webpage in 1994, can I reject this authority? b^)

Twitter is dumb and more avoidable than G or FB, but it does seem to have some effect on the chattering class. If it is problematic when "bad" facebook moderation affects elections (I'm not saying that has ever happened, nor that it would in fact be problematic), it seems possibly problematic when "bad" twitter moderation affects elections.

Greenwald and Snowden seem to care about this? Although of course they care more about our ongoing persecution of Assange.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by jessaustin »

williamcotton wrote: post #786
colordrops wrote: post #597

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have low expectations then yeah I guess.

Wait until you hear about lobbying! You’ll stop getting out of bed. Or you could invest in a civics education and ask these questions in a formal setting and have you concerns addressed.

I bet you're a big fan of voting, too!

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by Yuyudo_Comiketo »

fingal wrote: post #936
Yuyudo_Comiketo wrote: post #843

This is how you promote a technocrat to be later put in the role of the head of one world government: You censor, mute, cancel all dissent for years. You turn homes to prisons and enforce inhumane conditions for people to just be able to "get back to normalcy". You turn voluntary to compulsory. You deprive people of individuality by defacing them with masks. You school their obedience with barefaced surveillance. You…

That sounds unlikely.

> Then you probably make him a key figure in exposing the medical fascism of Corona Era

https://twitter.com/JamesfWells/status/1600526813045800960

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by PaulHoule »

cm2187 wrote: post #665
andreyk wrote: post #108

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

These policies were always a pretext. The two major social networks blocking the same story at the same time citing different policies that are obviously inconsistently applied (did Twitter block the story about Trump's leaked tax returns? Did facebook block Biden when he claimed that covid would be gone once everyone was vaccinated?). These emails show twitter executives puzzled by the application of those policies.…

The whole point of the NSA is that it does the things that Snowden revealed. They were tremendously annoyed by it not because he revealed they were doing it in the abstract but because he revealed details that got people to change their practices, forced the NSA to change their practice, and reduced their effectiveness.

Some of those changes should have happened anyway. Snowden's revelations pushed people to use https ubiquitously. It doesn't just protect against NSA spying but other countries do stuff like that too as well as non state actors. (There was that time I switched on wireshark on WiFi for 5 minutes and was like damn... I've got a lot of email passwords.)

Like it or not, driving from DC to the airport in Baltimore you drive past the puzzle palace at Fort Mead and it's got a huge parking lot and one of the worst traffic jams in America when the quitting bell rings at the end of the work day. If they weren't spying on people but instead spending the money on ski chalets or beautifying the inner city or something, that would be a real scandal.

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