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Re: Dear Chess World

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Post by erfgh »

zach_garwood wrote: post #959
erfgh wrote: post #846

This is a farce. All credibility has been lost when you have to scan players like you scan people when entering a plane. Chess is touted as an ingenious game when it is little more than a brute-force search with simple prune and huge amounts of memorization. I would argue that most GMs would easily play up to 200-300 elo points below their current level with little to no practice. But they spend decades of their live…

This is a weird criticism to me. It's like complaining that a karate master is just drilling the same moves over and over instead of coming up with moves in sparring, or complaining that a football team is rewatching old games to see what plays work instead of just coming up with plays on the field. The memorization and preparedness IS the intelligence, not the waste of it.

The difference is that karate moves are not perfectly reproducible. Everyone performs them differently. Chess moves are perfectly reproducible. I can play the first 5 moves of many openings perfectly, exactly the same way as the world champion plays them.

Re: Dear Chess World

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Post by nurettin »

You might have a stockfish, buttfish, or whatever hidden somewhere on your body. But how the game position is transmitted to the said device is a hard problem and just handwaved away as a triviality.

Re: Dear Chess World

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Post by me_me_me »

roflyear wrote: post #935
me_me_me wrote: post #894

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am into chess, was studying it, have read few books on chess. People who know near zero about chess seem to come out of woodwork to defend underdog who is attacked by the top level clique. Its understandable, but to me its akin to the flat earth arguments. All based on emotions, never have much to say about chess. Anyone who knows a bit about chess (lets say advanced level), would point to the post game interview o…

You claim the other side is just using emotions, then you use arguments like this: "It feels like" Do you see no irony here?

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Re: Dear Chess World

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Post by me_me_me »

roflyear wrote: post #936
tjwhitaker wrote: post #929

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Agreed. Not only the firouzja interview but also the post game interview after the magnus match. It struck me as someone cheating on a test and being unable to show their work after the fact. Alejandro was pushing back against his analysis even before the cheating allegations came out. And his apology interview was full of inconsistencies where he couldn’t keep his story straight. This video does a body language anal…

The issue I have with this is Hans is obviously either some god-level cheater (who can also cheat at rapid formats?? in casual settings - like in parks, on the beach, etc??) or he's actually 2500-2600 (or, let's even say 2400). If he's 2400, he can still analyze. This leads me to believe that the dude is just trolling. IDK. I haven't watched all his interviews, but he seems like a troll.

trolling?

Throwing suspicion over your career is great way of destroying it, and what for? trolling?

What you suggest is akin to being a cop and trolling other cops by doing suspicious things to pretend to be dirty cop... for jokes?

Re: Dear Chess World

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Post by roflyear »

me_me_me wrote: post #994
roflyear wrote: post #936

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue I have with this is Hans is obviously either some god-level cheater (who can also cheat at rapid formats?? in casual settings - like in parks, on the beach, etc??) or he's actually 2500-2600 (or, let's even say 2400). If he's 2400, he can still analyze. This leads me to believe that the dude is just trolling. IDK. I haven't watched all his interviews, but he seems like a troll.

trolling? Throwing suspicion over your career is great way of destroying it, and what for? trolling? What you suggest is akin to being a cop and trolling other cops by doing suspicious things to pretend to be dirty cop... for jokes?

Hans is obviously a troll, is what I'm saying. He likes being edgy during interviews.

I don't really like the guy TBH. I don't watch his interviews because I don't think he's funny or entertaining or informative.

I'm just saying, he says a lot of weird shit - but other GMs do, too.

I'm not saying he's trolling by cheating ???

Re: Dear Chess World

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Post by dredmorbius »

Lapsa wrote: post #823
dredmorbius wrote: post #551

Nitter / Regwall / Dark patterns: https://nitter.net/MagnusCarlsen/status/1574482694406565888 >

thanks, didn't know about the Nitter

It's quite handy. Among other features:

- You can configure alternative front-ends for other services, including YouTube, Instagram, and Reddit.

- It supports RSS. Feeds for accounts or queries. E.g., a search for "dredmorbius" (I occasionally get quoted or mentioned, mostly by bots): https://nitter.kavin.rocks/search/rss?f=tweets&q=dredmorbius>

- Themes, including a dark mode if you prefer.

Re: Dear Chess World

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Post by kennyloginz »

seanhunter wrote: post #829
kennyloginz wrote: post #758

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The St. Louis chess club provided more checking / scrutiny than any other OTB tournament I have seen. How would you improve their process? Honestly would love to hear.

Daniel Naroditsky[1] said at the St Louis chess club specifically it would be pretty easy to cheat OTB no matter what searches they do. He said there is a balcony which the players have access to when they walk away from the board which has a clear view of the car park and you could have an assistant signal from there at crucial moments. He also cited a case of a player who was definitely cheating OTB[2] and was neve…

Word, I hear ya, a cheater is always gonna be a cheater. … But, honestly, we are going through a strange transition in chess. I’m not very familiar with online chess, so I take that sort of cheating lightly. Was surprised that online games can effect OTB ratings. I’m guessing FIDE, USCF , and other orgs will start separating online vs. OTB ratings as a result of this friction.

Re: Dear Chess World

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Post by kennyloginz »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #768
kennyloginz wrote: post #642

Can any radio people chime in? What would be a reasonable ( affordablish ) way to detect signals at an over the board tournament?

Given the low information bandwidth -- single-digit bits per second, transmitted in bursts with an extremely low duty cycle -- it's impossible to detect such signals in the general case. One way to conceal conventionally-modulated pulse signals would be to superimpose them against legitimate signals like local FM broadcast stations, for instance. Another strategy would be to use spreading codes to randomize the timin…

Thanks!

Re: Dear Chess World

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Post by JulianWasTaken »

Maursault wrote: post #943
JulianWasTaken wrote: post #898

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Things which are true but not provable aren't paradoxes, they're simply unprovable.

This is a straw man. Truth values of paradoxes can not be determined, only postulated. It is a paradox because if it were proven true it would be false, and vice versa. In precisely the same way, "this phrase is false," is also a paradox, and whether or not the truth value can be determined (it can not) is not relevant to whether it is a paradox.

Yes, truth values of paradoxes cannot be determined, but it's you who called it a paradox. On its face, it isn't a paradox.

If we're being pedantic, which your initial response struck me as, there are again true statements with no proof, and this isn't a paradox, it's Gödel's first incompleteness theorem (which is specifically different from the liar's paradox you mentioned, precisely in the difference between what is true and what is provable).

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