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Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by Bakary »

sdfjkl wrote: post #697

Imagine being groomed to do this job from birth, with no real way to opt out[1]. You wanted to breed horses, become a blacksmith or start a business? Get that nonsense out of your head, you're a princess! Then, when you're 25, your daddy dies aged only 56 and after a rather brief period of mourning you get pushed into taking his job in a pompous ceremony. Now you're going to be doing this until you die. No retirement…

Compared to actual poverty that is experienced by billions, that doesn't seem nearly as terrible.

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Post by BonoboIO »

petesergeant wrote: post #386
BonoboIO wrote: post #261

I feel sad for the british empire, she was like the figure that represented the whole Great Britain. I think it’s the start of a Long way down. Brexit is a disaster, Prince Charles is not really a charming person, Scotland wants to leave Great Britain and join the EU, Northern Ireland is split as ever. God save the king.

> Scotland wants to leave Great Britain I'm not sure that's geologically feasible

London will pay for the wall :D

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by rambojazz »

saberience wrote: post #71

It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…

The same effect as watching a cartoon from your childhood.

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Post by rurban »

netsharc wrote: post #690
rurban wrote: post #460

Interestingly the details of the planned operation London Bridge https://www.politico.eu/article/queen-elizabeth-death-plan-b... were posted today on some British news site before her death, when all others confirmed her stable health. Some insiders obviously were in the know earlier today.

But that article is dated September 2021. The Guardian also wrote about it in 2017: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens... The articles probably landed on the top 10 list of most read articles (due to Google hits) after the Buckingham Palace statement this morning that the doctors are recommending continuous monitoring of her health, which probably was British understatement for "Her situatio…

Yes, that's a good explanation

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Post by Siira »

NomDePlum wrote: post #814

Whilst I sympathise with people's personal feelings relating to this death it makes me really sad that one privileged and utterly protected and cocooned life has this impact whilst daily we walk by malnourished people on the streets without a second thought. And that is in the first world countries, god help those in the 3rd world countries.

In Farsi we have a saying, “All the troubles are for the lame.” Bad things are correlated. It’s not fair, but true. People with the most merit are statistically the ones with the most undeserved privilege. Consider the extreme case; unborn people are the most unlucky, and yet nobody even thinks about them much.

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Post by rufflez »

DisjointedHunt wrote: post #929
rufflez wrote: post #857

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All the comments about the monarchy in this thread miss the point that she is seen as a mother figure of the nation. The maternal figure head for the UK, a commentator on twitter put it well saying "It felt like we all lost our Grandmother"

Why? I don't get it

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Post by NomDePlum »

kldx wrote: post #874
NomDePlum wrote: post #814

Whilst I sympathise with people's personal feelings relating to this death it makes me really sad that one privileged and utterly protected and cocooned life has this impact whilst daily we walk by malnourished people on the streets without a second thought. And that is in the first world countries, god help those in the 3rd world countries.

Interesting take. Do you believe humans have always had a tendency for apathy to the less fortunate or is it a modern trend to be more apathetic as one gets more self-sufficient in a society that encourages individualism?

Never really thought too deeply about it but I would guess there is a correlation with increasing mobility (commuting, etc) meaning more exposure to this sort of thing and less likelihood to feel responsibility or necessity to act.

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Post by mikestaub »

saberience wrote: post #71

It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…

She was a motherly figure to all Brits. It's painful to lose someone who you know genuinely cared for you. Even if she never met you.

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Post by adharmad »

crazygringo wrote: post #709
badcppdev wrote: post #647

I am sad for her passing. Was tuned into the news all afternoon waiting for the announcement even thought the writing was clearly on the wall and the announcement still made me tear up. But for all the talk of duty, morals, and leadership I saw none of that in the Queen. I saw a figurehead. Shaking hands and listening but what did she contribute? Definitely not morals or direction. People talk of her speech in 2020 d…

> I saw a figurehead. Shaking hands and listening but what did she contribute? Definitely not morals or direction. But that's her role -- as figurehead. The job is to be a symbol, not a leader. Leading is left to the democratically elected politicians, and for good reason. And it's not the new king's job to sway the PM. It's literally the opposite of his job. And if you don't think she contributed morals? Her behavio…

This has been repeated so many times on this thread. So may I ask specifically how she led by example?
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