It's simple... We turn the Upvote into the Down vote, and vote down to vote up.
No it's not helpful in the short term but, hopefully Mama Susan will get the message.
Making the dislike count private across YouTube
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#992Hiding the dislike info on POTUS seems important now. Hiding the dislike info on CNN seems important now. Public trust in government is low. Public trust in corporate media is low. It's been policy to manufacture consent in the US for quite a while now. Hard to say this move isn't more of the same, and it's equally hard to say it helps more than it hurts too.
It was funny when Baidu censored Winnie-the-Pooh memes. When YT censored "Let's go Brandon" videos, I chuckled, but the humor was darker. Now they are hiding downvotes. On the US "National News" YT channel, almost all of the promoted videos are downvoted. I'm always amazed at the discrepancy between what's promoted in the MSM and where popular opinion is. Meanwhile top podcasters routinely trounce MSM viewership rati…
"I'm always amazed at the discrepancy between what's promoted in the MSM and where popular opinion is."
Do you think like/dislikes on YouTube represent popular opinion?
If so, you are profoundly deluded.
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#993This seems one sided. Why not hide the “like” count too and make both like and dislike counts visible only to the creators while using the individual action of each viewer for recommendations? I don’t understand why a dislike brigade could be harmful but a like brigade couldn’t be (like propaganda and/or misinformation). They seem to have considered only the impact on creators, who are a small percentage of the popul…
> I don’t understand why a dislike brigade could be harmful but a like brigade couldn’t be (like propaganda and/or misinformation).
Likes or dislikes in isolation are pretty coarse metrics. Is it small, medium, big, or a huge number? Outside of that, it doesn't really matter.
The ratio, however, can be hugely misleading, and is most certainly one of the factors leading to ignorance bubbles. I just replied to another comment that held this ratio as a demonstration of "popular opinion", and this is a very common assumption.
It isn't popular opinion. It is the usually tiny, self-selecting group of individuals who seek out this information and then purposefully engage with it. The more engaged a bubble is, the more outsized this ratio will be.
Vaccination content is a great example. A heavy majority of the public is pro-vaccination, pro-mandates, pro-masking, etc. But they do it and go on with their life. They aren't watching videos and clicking little arrows hoping to change the world. Anti-vax people spend their days filling Facebook feeds, sharing memes, and clicking up and down arrows. So videos for the former tend to have terrible ratios, while the latter have great ratios. Despite being fringe beliefs. But then people come out of it deluded into thinking it's popular sentiment, and they're really just the "silent majority", etc.
Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube
#994An attempt to hide public opinion regarding certain topics/people.
Because google wants to control public perception, and the entire public conversation about EVERYTHING
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#995Hilarious the visceral response here to the apparent and inevitable decline of YouTube content quality with the removal of a dislike count -- when Hacker News itself doesn't show a down vote count nor even a down vote button for a large portion of its population.
HN does show if a comment has been downvoted enough. Does youtube?
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#996Hmm. For me the dislike button was informative. If feels like they are trying to create a world where everything can only be good, better, even more better, which just doesn't represent reality. Imagine Stack Overflow only having the option to upvote Questions and Answers. The ratio of likes vs dislikes of a TED talk does help me to decide if I should stop watching a video which just isn't getting better.
I think this shows what standpoint Google has in this: The dislike button is not supposed to be used by the user, but rather the creator. You as a user should watch the video no matter what and then rate the creator, not skip it if you see a large amount of dislikes.
No, thanks. I use Youtube for technical videos and videos pertaining to certain tasks and the dislike ratio is nearly always an indicator of whether or not the video is misleading, incorrect or uninformative.
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#997> Clearly a flawed conclusion. For the result of their experiment they deduced what they wanted it to say. Because we can easily say that the effect is not "dislike attacking" but other effects: - shy people more afraid to give their opinion not knowing that others have done the same. - the feature feeling useless, as even if you dislike, you might thing that you click will worth nothing as no one will see it. Imagin…
It doesn't matter if the conclusions don't make sense. What matters is that the impact is going inyo the promo package.
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#998>Earlier this year, we experimented with the dislike count to see whether or not changes could help better protect creators from harassment, and reduce dislike attacks
I'd like to see the actual data. What metric was used to determine whether or not this change resulted in '[..] better protect creators from harassment'? Hopefully it wasn't something weak like opinion polls.
A data oriented company not sharing data from a scientific experiment makes me suspicious.
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#999less content more ads, CONSUME
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#1000This is not to support its users. Suddenly it is way harder to avoid the bad quality videos there is.
Perhaps someone has a good curator page/filter where only the good (perhaps 1000 / 50 ratio or so) videos are linked? I am a current premium user but find no use at all for this kind of policies and I find it rather annoying.