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Re: Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up

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My wife, who is a second wave feminist that believes that women should be given the same opportunities, but are not victims, ran across some of the craziness a few years ago. She was in a tech forum where a woman was complaining about her experience at a company. It amounted to this woman having a perception that she was not being valued as much as a male colleague and was immediately jumping to the conclusion that i…

She's lucky to have been kicked out from such a toxic environment. What I do personally is to just avoid all of these people. I have the impression it's harder to avoid them in California because people are particularly brainwashed over there - which is one of the reasons I avoid California as well.

as someone that has lived in other states for many years and now recently returned to California, I am finding this out the hard way as well. The issue is that the toxic environments simply don't realize how toxic they are. They think they're doing good and changing the world and most laughably, "smashing the patriarchy" by simultaneously reaping its benefits.

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The payout matrix for "give honest advice / don't give honest advice" has changed, radically. Then some people noticed that, and then their behavior changed to match. It isn't punishing anyone, it's adaptation to a new risk. The "Pence Fence" is a defensive strategem and it didn't arise in a vacuum. It is a costly defense, too, so it being kept up is likely worth the cost to mitigate the risk. Most of what comes afte…

Can you elaborate what the pence fence is?

Mike Pence didn't dine alone with women other than his wife. Perhaps this is what the term is referring to

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I'm a bit sad about how eager everyone is jumping on the idea that "candid advice" will always be construed as possibly sexist. I'm from Germany and we are famously blunt, so maybe there is a cultural aspect to this, but to me candor != risk of sexism. If your advice is candid, it also shouldn't leave any ambiguity..."I'm unsure about you doing the pitch because the last N times you froze up and you seem nervous agai…

A lot of Americans of any gender would be put off by a lot of very routine and candid professional communications that happen in Germany. I find American English in general to be tending toward the near universal avoidance of direct speech and statements, independent of speaker/listener identity. Importantly the speaker and listener are not consciously aware of this happening. The net result is that you can say liter…

As an American concerned about the direction our language (and our culture) is headed in, realizing that there are places in the west that aren't like this is incredibly relieving.

Re: Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up

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Female founder friend (non tech space) was in a female focused incubator / competition. She got only one set of somewhat critical feedback - ie, lacks experience in X and Y which are key in product space Z. She posted a comment on her social media focusing on this feedback as "criticism" that came from a sexist guy "of course". It was pretty easy to draw the line to the three panelists, one of whom was a guy. Ouch. I…

This victimhood mentality is atrocious and is something I recently wrote about. I don't normally do this but here's a shameless plug if anyone wants to read a bit more about this phenomenon. https://inconvenientconsiderations.blogspot.com/2021/03/hero...

Very nicely put! Thank you for this. Hits softly when you’re past this obstacle. The big question for me is how to show this to your dear people in a kind and helpful way.

Re: Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up

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Female founder friend (non tech space) was in a female focused incubator / competition. She got only one set of somewhat critical feedback - ie, lacks experience in X and Y which are key in product space Z. She posted a comment on her social media focusing on this feedback as "criticism" that came from a sexist guy "of course". It was pretty easy to draw the line to the three panelists, one of whom was a guy. Ouch. I…

This victimhood mentality is atrocious and is something I recently wrote about. I don't normally do this but here's a shameless plug if anyone wants to read a bit more about this phenomenon. https://inconvenientconsiderations.blogspot.com/2021/03/hero...

Thank you for this read. Very observant and insightful in only a few words. Communism is the outcome if this mindset continues. Like you said, we must teach others not to believe the lies of victimhood. Thank you so much for sharing. Teach it to all you encounter.

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I saw some improvement in the Netflix movies getting less extreme over time. Emily in Paris was the first movie where the woke Netflix made fun of itself using French people / culture as props. Disney and Netflix had to lose billions of dollars to understand that the loudest voices may not represent the majority of the people.

Kiiind of annoying as a french person though. Seriously, Paris is never that clean.

I really laughed at the peeing station and thought it as a joke that goes too far until I Googled it and realized that it is real :)

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#997

The solution to this is simple: Practice your communication skills. If you can’t think of a way to phrase advice that might be offensive, you are failing in intermediate communication skills. If you think it might be offensive, ask a close female in your life, your sister, your mother, grandma, etc. It’s in everyone’s best interest to treat others with love and respect. For extra safety, if you really think there is…

The problem being highlighted here isn't bad communicators. The problem is good communicators being incentivized out of communicating. It says something about you that you could not comprehend something that obvious.

It also says something about people thinking they are good communicators but are actually just afraid. I guess both can be true.

Re: Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up

#998
post #529

I'm not a woman but I'm a minority in other dimensions. I've always felt labels such as "female-led", "female-owned", " " do the opposite of what they intend to do. That is, they paint a picture that this minority group is not capable enough and need a lot of hand holding so everyone please bias your decisions towards their success to the detriment of other groups. If that's not enough, currently there are few reperc…

This is the problem. America was supposed to be the land of the free, where anyone from anywhere could have an opportunity didn't matter who they where. Instead we created African-Americans, Italian-Americans, Jewish-Americans, Gay-Americans, Straight-Americans, Native-Americans, etc, and everyone is out for themselves. And everyone is against one another. Female-led, Black-led, Latino-majority, who gives a fuck. Do…

As usual, the Irish are left out in the cold.

(disclaimer: I'm of Irish descent. It's a joke.)

Re: Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up

#999

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In the public sphere the risk/reward is quite different. What you are talking about is relatively private.

It's not a public vs private thing. I've been in plenty of panel discussions where I have offered advice to female founders publicly. I was in a semi-open mentoring session just a few days ago when I did so. In fact, I've been called out in the pas for not being sensitive to women's perspectives. (No twitter mobs, thankfully) Giving good feedback is a skill. Giving good feedback to people of different races, genders,…

I hope you're paid for it!

Re: Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up

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had to google what cis is: > A cisgender person (sometimes cissexual, informally abbreviated cis) is one whose gender identity matches their sex assigned at birth. For example, someone who identifies as a woman and was identified as female at birth is a cisgender woman. The word cisgender is the antonym of transgender.

I never really saw the point of this term, to be honest. To me it just feels like a sly way to normalize being abnormal. Imagine if we had specific terms for someone who doesn't shoplift, or who doesn't eat other people's pets.

Well, we have a term for people that compare trans people to criminals - or worse - like you just did: it's "transphobe." The word "bigot" works just as well, it's just not as precise.

Amazing what passes for "discourse" on this site.

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