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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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> I really think they should have put more thought into the timing of this decision; a lot of users are going to be upset and will suddenly start to realize that a single company has a monopoly on their online social life (this may seem like an exaggeration, but it feels quite true to me colloquially, especially if you're a younger US male and/or play video games). What? I have never used Discord. If you think that a…

Email is not comparable to Discord... Teamspeak and Mumble are dying because everyone moved to Discord -- and all the professional meeting solutions are awful. What should I use if it's so easy?

TFW you complain about a player being dominate, and then immediately refuse to use any smaller rival because they aren’t dominate.

WTF? Get over yourself.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#992

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Email is not comparable to Discord... Teamspeak and Mumble are dying because everyone moved to Discord -- and all the professional meeting solutions are awful. What should I use if it's so easy?

TFW you complain about a player being dominate, and then immediately refuse to use any smaller rival because they aren’t dominate. WTF? Get over yourself.

I don't choose which platforms communities and friends move to. I have limited agency in this situation and exercising that is pointless due to network effects. I'm not annoyed about dominance, I'm annoyed about monopoly abuse.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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It still fascinates me that everything goes back to having a pair or not. For me it’s not the profanity but where it goes back to that makes me pause.

Ti generalize the expression to both genders, in Italy the pair can refer to testicles, breasts or ovaries. The point being “having significant reproductive potential”... I hope it will never be poco’d to avoid offending people that have reproductive disorders.

My point was more that what most people want to express is “guts”. But they’ll go for “balls” because it needs to be about sex and hormones, what else could it be, right ?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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>Very few people care about what you are talking about. The flood of messages i got (XX is on Signal now) from techies and non-techies speak another language. >tech savvy, young, mostly male, and vaguely misanthropic. You forgot the word "white" ;)

ISTM you might be revealing more than you intend about the diversity of your social media contacts?

>social media contacts

Ehm no, its the Address-book of my phone. From Dog-sitters to Family and Business.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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I have worked as a tutor at university. The best and most "free" discussions I experienced were all happening in a space where everybody was after finding some sort of insight. This delicate balance was at times destoyed by a single person that started attacking people aggresively for who they were rather than attacking the argument they made in a way that makes them understand. Allowing that person to freely speak w…

Not everyone shares your ideas about what the "best" and most "free" discussions are. Apparently, the crowd at this Discord channel were ok with calling each other gays, autists, retards, or whatever. It may not be the highbrow enough for some, but that is no reason to shutdown their community.

Sure, but most people agree on what makes a discussion worse. E.g. if one person constantly interrupts others and leads agressively voiced monologous with no real substance, most people might agree that person might not improve the climate of the discussion to much

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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That's not what they said at all.

Ahem... https://thenextweb.com/shareables/2010/02/27/newsweek-1995-b... https://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2012/02/the_internet_futur...

And he was right. If you read what what you linked, you'd that everything his said is true when you dig down into it.

> Consider today’s online world. The Usenet, a worldwide bulletin board, allows anyone to post messages across the nation. Your word gets out, leapfrogging editors and publishers. Every voice can be heard cheaply and instantly. The result? Every voice is heard. The cacophany more closely resembles citizens band radio, complete with handles, harrasment, and anonymous threats.

This is exactly the same issue that we are still debating today. He is exactly right.

> Won’t the Internet be useful in governing? Internet addicts clamor for government reports. But when Andy Spano ran for county executive in Westchester County, N.Y., he put every press release and position paper onto a bulletin board. In that affluent county, with plenty of computer companies, how many voters logged in? Fewer than 30. Not a good omen.

He's right again. About the only thing that you can do with the government today is renew your car's registration (if you're lucky). The fundamentals of government haven't changed a bit.

The whole context of his argument is that the internet is not going to replace business as usual. You won't replace a school teacher with a CD rom. Online courses are widely regarded as being much worse than a college education. There is really no surprises in anything he said.

I sincerely thought he would just be someone who wasn't "with it"... but no, he actually has a clear understanding of how the promises that the internet didn't materialize in the 90s, and still haven't today.

...And regardless, if you need to quote literally who to find an example of someone saying the internet is bad? I mean, this is just arguing on the internet for you. Read the headline, not the substance, and dig up random factoids to "gotcha" people instead of really thinking critically about the core problems of the world. And nothing gets solved; no minds are changed.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

#997

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TFW you complain about a player being dominate, and then immediately refuse to use any smaller rival because they aren’t dominate. WTF? Get over yourself.

I don't choose which platforms communities and friends move to. I have limited agency in this situation and exercising that is pointless due to network effects. I'm not annoyed about dominance, I'm annoyed about monopoly abuse.

Well that’s the crux isn’t it? You want to complain, but declare yourself helpless in the face of multiple options. You’re the problem here.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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An internet community is "somebody" with a selfish interest that might go against the interest of the wider public.

So is any group of people, including hedge funds and the government as we've seen over and over and over again.

yes, we don't want stock manipulation from anyone. A small group of retail investors can't manipulate stock so they can be exempt. This group however just proved that they can.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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> If the new regs enshrine the current reality in law then maybe there'll be more hope for fundamental reform. This is a sideshow. Feds or regulatory body will crack down, we'll just accept another banned community that is "a threat to our democracy" and we'll move on. I don't think what is essentially financial de-regulation is a movement that's going to pick up steam some time soon. There's vagueness in securities…

Regulators and prosecutors do as industry tells them. In this case it's not clear that industry wants anything changed. The smarter hedge reptiles made some money riding the momentum of this thing, and will make more riding it back down when it collapses. Being reptiles, they won't cry because one or two of their number didn't make it out alive. Smart money is never going to outlaw dumb money.

>Regulators and prosecutors do as industry tells them

Then why would any company ever get sued?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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> A more apt comparison would be a group in a corner having a conversation at a rock concert. Suddenly this argument appears less apt. This is a tired old argument and it isn't convincing or effective. There's a big difference between having a conversation in a corner at a rock concert, and having a conversation in an online service hosted by someone else outside of that conversation, in a territory owned by a state…

At least you're original. Do you want a change in this society? I'd guess you do, most people want to change something . Espousing a desire for any change will always be offensive to someone, and so wanting any improvement necessarily includes being deliberately offensive. The right to speak is the right to offend. Real world violence, sure. Let's ban that. And asking people to be nice, that's not a bad thing. And ba…

> Espousing a desire for any change will always be offensive to someone, and so wanting any improvement necessarily includes being deliberately offensive.

This is not true. Whatever you’re disagreeing with another person, you don’t have to call that person any politically incorrect slur, which is really the kind of “offensive” that we are talking about here.

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