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Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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"Reddit confirms $300M Series D led by China’s Tencent at $3B value" https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/11/reddit-300-million/ "CCP-Controlled Tencent Inserts Tentacles Into Reddit" https://visiontimes.com/2019/02/22/ccp-controlled-tencent-in... Has anyone seen Jack Ma?

Haha, when you lose an argument, readers just flag a post? Hilarious.

"Lose an argument"?

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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-Don't like it? Make your own subreddit/group/discord! X -Don't like it? Make your own image host! X -Don't like it? Make your own social media! X -Don't like it? Make your own aggregator! X -Don't like it? Make your own cloudfare/hosting provider (you are here) -Don't like it? Make your own ISP! -Don't like it? Make your own banking/payment infrastructure! Edit: TIL HN doesn't support emoji

I feel like 2-4 are all on the same level? Make your own group: valid Make your own site: valid Make your own hosting provider: this one is tricky Make your own ISP: shouldn't be needed Make your own payment infrastructure: shouldn't be needed

I mean net neutrality prevents the ISP one from being an issue, which means making the hosting provider should be the end of that.

The payment infrastructure doesn't really have a good solution. Visa/MasterCard are famously quite puritan, most sex workers (e.g. OnlyFans, porn actors) get paid in direct deposit (form the websites) and are paid (by clients) using bank details (not cards, nor in most cases paypal like processors, it's one reason Patreon toned down the sex work they allowed). So yes, one would have to do that, create your own bank and stuff. But banks, like Tier 1 networks, seem to generally "peer" with anyone, but I am not clear if that's a requirement of legislation or not.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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shouldn't the onus of proving that there was no fraud be on the govt, instead of the other way around. In an ideal world is there way to prove definitively that there was no fraud? Or is this something unprovable.

There's better ways to run an election with verification systems. Venezuela does it pretty well, probably because they know there's an invasion itchy trigger finger pointed at them.* Poll workers for instance, get drafted from a lottery right near the election instead of a voluntary system so there's no way a team of confederates could scheme behind the scenes. There's also multiple tabulating and verification steps.…

Venezuela's verification systems are interesting, giving me some hope that the counting or voting processes could be improved.

> Dictators [...] can stay in power without lying about the vote count by, say, deciding what makes it on the ballot in the first place.

Reminds me of the situation in Hong Kong. Concerning the Chief Executive elections since 2017, there was a reform proposal in 2015 [1] to:

1. allow universal suffrage in Hong Kong, but

2. Beijing effectively could screen candidates.

[1]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-32397179

Strongly opposed as “fake democracy”, the proposal eventually did not go through (due to a very silly technical error from pro-Beijing side).

The rest is history.

After lots of subsequent development, just this week there was a mass arrest of pro-democracy lawmakers and activists [2], for otherwise the pro-democracy camp may have enough say in the election of the next Chief Executive, after the landslide victory in the district council election of 2019.

[2]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55555299

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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It is wrong to say that there was "burning" for "several months", unless you're referring to the forest fires. A few buildings were burned down in isolated incidents during several months of protests across multiple cities. Looting is not well-documented but my friends in Portland didn't seem very concerned. The vast majority of participants in the protests following the Floyd murder did not take part in any violence…

> It is wrong to say that there was "burning" for "several months", unless you're referring to the forest fires. A few buildings were burned down in isolated incidents during several months of protests across multiple cities. That's neither here nor there. I didn't say "burning for months" (e.g. the same fires keep burning for months), I said "burning and looting for months", that is incidents of burnings and looting…

> I said "burning and looting for months", that is incidents of burnings and lootings occuring for months.

Weasel words, then. The continuous presence of fire for months was of course not implied.

>Many of those in favor aren't, especially if they live outside of the affected radius.

In favor of what, precisely?

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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You know what scares the shit out of me, to use your phrasing? The people on that site murdering me or overthrowing the government, so that they seize power and elections end or become irrelevant. “The free Internet” has value, but it’s not the only thing that has value. When it conflicts with other values, then there has to be a nuanced resolution.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25687988.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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I'm an active reader of threads on YC, and maybe I'm just lucky but I have yet to see anyone spouting MAGA based conspiracy theories. I did get downvoted one time for saying Trump invented the term Antifa (Which is absolutely true. I did a google search by date to verify.) but that's as close as I've seen.

The downvote might be because the Antifa fact is inaccurate according to wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

Just because it's not mentioned in Wikipedia doesn't make it false.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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> Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Have you never heard of the DMCA? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25682785 Wikipedia was threatened for having B709D3A0CD2FEC08EAFCCF540D8A100BB38E5E091D646ADB7B14D021096FFCD on a web page. ISPs are frequently threatening to disconnect customers who serve files, and sites that are l…

Except in this case, this isn't a copyright violation. I have never heard of a case of a website being shut down by an ISP for advocating violence. If that was the case, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter or any social media platform wouldn't exist.

So copyright violations are worse than advocating violence?

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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This doesn't explain why the Governor of Maryland was prohibited from moving its troops into DC by the Pentagon while Senators were begging for backup; and why it took Pence, who was in the middle of the siege, to make the call.

IDK anything about the pentagon, but as for why Pence's call would have more gravity than Senators is fairly obvious: he's the second-in-command of the executive branch of the government. Emergency military mobilization is much more the prerogative of the executive than the legislative branch.

> IDK anything about the pentagon, but as for why Pence's call would have more gravity than Senators is fairly obvious

No, what happened was the Senators called Maryland Gov Larry Hogan who has command of the MD National Guard. He mobilized his troops but he needed permission from the Pentagon to move them into DC. He didn't receive authorization for over an hour while the Capitol was being overrun.

This is a separate issue from Mike Pence. This isn't about Pence vs. Senators; the question there is why wasn't Trump the one to make the call? Where was he in all of this in defending the Capitol. Reports are that he was reveling in the chaos, and making calls to Republican senators to lobby them to take more time and raise objections to the electoral certificates.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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As I've been saying here in HN. The political divide is the democrats. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charts-americas-political-d... Put your finger on the Median Republican line and it either moves left or stays put. The political divide has not been the republicans. In the last year that changed for many reasons. The republicans have now moved. That political divide is now much larger. That 'more extreme' that yo…

I dispute this assessment, it’s a drastic simplification and the comparison only starts in 1994, which is after a heavy swing in America to the right throughout the 80s and 90s. If anything, what the article shows is a regression to the long-term political mean, not a move left. A great example I happen to have favorited on YouTube, check out the healthcare debate in 1971 [0]. It’s essentially Medicare for all (D) vs…

>I dispute this assessment, it’s a drastic simplification and the comparison only starts in 1994, which is after a heavy swing in America to the right throughout the 80s and 90s. If anything, what the article shows is a regression to the long-term political mean, not a move left.

It shows the political swing over 25+ years capturing clinton, bush, and obama presidencies. We see that during bush and clinton the democrats were quite stable. Only at around 2011 did the graph start seeing a shift where 2017 has the democrats having moved far left on average.

This data is available from other sources. The other reality is that I can personally see it. The democrats used to have a strong moderate base, they are gone.

There are many many people writing on how the political divide is so bad that it feels like never before.

The reality is that Obama(first black president) was doomed to identity politics. Which has created this much division.

>A great example I happen to have favorited on YouTube, check out the healthcare debate in 1971 [0]. It’s essentially Medicare for all (D) vs practically Obamacare (but from an R).

Not available in my country. 1971 is much to old to properly compare to today's political climate.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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> The source that you cited contradicted your claim of 'hidden ballots'. You are a liar. This is false. You need to also look up the definition of "liar" - it exclusively refers to intentional deception . I did not intentionally deceive you - I just thought that they were hidden when they were not. You're zero for two while acting in the most malicious way possible. Perhaps try taking a step back and not only looking…

I've banned this account. Creating accounts to do political flamewar is not allowed here, and will get your main account banned as well, so please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Would you take another look at the account you are replying to here?
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