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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by jonathanyc »

complexmango wrote: post #990
techsupporter wrote: post #220

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My birth certificate says "Texas" across the top and people have been "fleeing California" to Texas for as long as I've been alive. There's nothing special about Musk; he just happens to be high-profile about it and managed to extract more from California before decamping to a "cheap" state than several of those who came before him. I disagree with your assessment that Texas has wide acceptance for opposing viewpoint…

Your anecdotal experience is not borne out by either facts or my anecdotal experience. Houston is literally the most diverse city in America, statistically speaking. And you have to look hard to find religiously conservative people in any Texas metro that are also exclusionary. I say that as someone neither white nor Christian. If anything, the only place you may find a lack of diversity is Austin, which is overwhelm…

As a Christian in California, I’m genuinely curious—could you elaborate on what it means for Austin to be overwhelmingly intolerant of non-leftist opinions, and for the rest of Texas to not be exclusionary?

I hear this claim from time to time but I’d like to know what it means concretely. Do you mean things like churches being closed due to COVID, or some sort of anti-white racism existing in Austin on the one hand while on the other hand racism isn’t prevalent outside of Austin?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by nondeveloper »

foobiekr wrote: post #982
nondeveloper wrote: post #893

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My partner and I are Jewish and gay. Salt Lake has a small, tight-knit community of the former and a large, diffuse community of the latter; though we haven't been socializing because of the pandemic. The Latter-day Saints we've met have been unfailingly kind and welcoming to us, which is surprising given how they were characterized to us before we moved. Do I expect the more observant of them to welcome us in? Not r…

That's great. I'm happy for you. Housing there is surprisingly expensive if you want to own, another concern for me. I really like SLC though.

Thanks. Yes, housing is getting a little more expensive now that so many people are moving to the Wasatch Front. It’s not as bad as Boise or Denver, though, at least not yet.

We’re unsure if we’ll stay long term and buy or not. We want kids and a religious community for them to grow up in. That would’ve been kind of tough even in the Bay Area, though.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by peder »

i_cannot_hack wrote: post #668
dcolkitt wrote: post #599

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> Crime in almost every category has gone down over the last decade. This isn't true at all. Since prop 47, property crime has exploded across the state. Even violent crime rates are significantly higher in LA than they were in 2010.[2][3] In particular gang-on-gang violence may be moving the homicide rate lower, but predator-on-prey violence has shot up. Rapes have more than doubled in the past decade. > From Seattl…

> Rapes have more than doubled in the past decade. Do you have any source that states that this increase is actually due to more crimes taking place, rather than more victims reporting rapes due to shifting attitudes and/or less fear of societal rebuke? It could very well have been under-reported in the past due to stigma and other reasons. These kind of societal factors can often affect the number of reported rapes…

If you want to distort the statistics, you can do this the other direction, too. It's common for people in Seattle to point out that they don't file police reports for theft because it's a bunch of work waiting on the police to arrive (it can take hours) and filling out a police report only for the police/prosecutors/judges to literally do nothing about it. So anecdotally, people say property crime is underreported.

Also, police departments and mayors have every incentive to keep reported crime lower. The LAPD, for instance, has a history of underclassifying crimes to maintain appearances that their city was safe: https://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-lapd-reclass-20141...

Also, the OP specifically pointed to 10-year statistics, not 20. Isn't it at all concerning that we're erasing all the progress we've made over the course of decades?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by [deleted] »

abawany wrote: post #613
Retric wrote: post #441

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Turnout says far less about political views than you might think. Voter suppression is a common and effective tool used to keep a political party in power even as they loose popular support. All it takes is realizing changing X rule like a deadline will help or hurt your party and then voting based on that rule. Eventually this can fail, which oddly enough tends to flip states so they can quickly go from solidly part…

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/08/texas-ken-paxton-ele... Having satisfactorily worked hard to make voting as difficult as possible in Texas, he wants to use the state's limited funds to sue other states that dared to improve their democracy. This is the government of Texas.

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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by NewUserWhoDis »

psychometry wrote: post #962
NewUserWhoDis wrote: post #923

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Property crime skyrocketed in San Francisco under Gascon. I'm curious to know: Was there an influx of criminals from outside San Francisco? Or did law-abiding citizens turn to crime? Or did the crimes per criminal go up? In any case, it was a disaster. Los Angeles deserves what it gets for voting him in.

Have you considered the possibility that changing crime rates can be attributed to wider socioeconomic phenomena and not whoever happens to be in charge of the city/state/country? Or are you just using this opportunity to display your prejudices?

It has nothing to do with "who's in charge," but it has everything to do with the specific policies that have been put in place, and Gascon's policies have been terrible.

I think our justice system desperately needs reform, but it needs to be done in a competent way. Could it be that your own prejudices are preventing you from Gascon's half-baked efforts with an objective, critical eye?

The fact that even questioning the effectiveness of an individual's policies gets you labeled as "prejudiced" sums up so much that's wrong with modern progressivism.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by dayaz36 »

boringg wrote: post #135
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I wouldn’t give California’s government any credit for Tesla’s success so far. If it was so good then Tesla wouldn’t be the only car company doing so well.

I know it's tough for free market people to understand this but it can't be understated. California SUPPORTS AND BUILDS the nascent market space from subsidizing Solar, Energy Storage and yes Electric Vehicles. I know it isn't cool to defend the government they are the ultimate boogeyman but like FFS they provide so many critical parts of our economy and, in progressive states like CA, help nascent industries get a f…

$7500 was a federal subsidy. Had nothing to do with state.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by o-__-o »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #272
o-__-o wrote: post #211

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> where the pensioners have almost entirely moved out of New Jersey to avoid the same taxes. (Income) Tax free Texas sounds good right about now!

Texas is a no income tax, but moderately high property tax state. That's good when you are making money, but can be hard when you retire: low income, high tax on your house.

Late to respond but NJ, where I used to live, has property tax of 10%+. Texas, where I live, is 2%

But I don’t mind if people don’t know this, this state is great as is :)

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by stjohnswarts »

xur17 wrote: post #878
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Yep I was going to add this. It sounds like he doesn't care if he has 10 huge houses or not and renting works just fine for him. Although he should thinking about hedging with some real estate, but I guess he probably already does that :)

I gather that he's not really the kind of person to "hedge". He multiple times has gone "all in" on his businesses. And honestly, once you have hundreds of billions of dollars across multiple companies, do you really need to hedge?

Probably not, you can easily sell off enough stocks even in a crash to be set for life (and probably multiple familial generations after you)

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by vl »

ryandrake wrote: post #372
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We will be moving out of CA in the coming months. We are lifelong residents. We are leaving due to cost of living and especially quality of life for our children.

I would love to move out of CA in the coming months. My spouse is begging me to. If my job were to finally announce permanent, optional WFH for employees, I list my house for sale that day. Same complaints: cost of living / taxes, quality of life, and kids' education. The only thing keeping me here is my current job and clear opportunities for future [tech] jobs. If WFH became the norm, I'm out of here in 50 millisec…

Interestingly, if you consider it at all, it means that you need to move out now: otherwise you are going to be caught in the huge wave of moving people and will be unable to realize all benefits, i.e. you might have to take the loss on the house, etc. Also, if you spouse really wants to move...

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by tabtab »

nomel wrote: post #983
manigandham wrote: post #535

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> "Mostly because it got more crowded." So what? That means more people and tax revenue to solve problems. There are plenty of very dense areas around the world run just fine. This is a failure of policy not population. If people are such a problem then maybe tax-paying law-abiding citizens should be prioritized over illegal immigration. > "If ALL you care about is a big house and taxes, then CA is probably not for y…

> So what? That means more people and tax revenue to solve problems. I'm not the state government though, I'm an individual with a life outside of my house. When the majority of the time for any activity outside of my house is sitting in traffic or waiting in lines, it's difficult to enjoy the area you live in. For this reason, I find myself heading further and further out of town to find areas or activities that are…

The flip side is that specialty services and shops are more likely to be available. This includes medical services. One may have to drive for a day or use airlines to reach the equivalent leaving from an isolated area.
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