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Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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I have no idea what happened during the early 2010s. I grew up during the late 90s (born in late 80s) learning about the internet and its philosophies. Allowing Free speech still is the hill I'd like to die on. But the new generation of people, even here on HN and the internet hacker personalities I used to align with have turned so pro-censorship that I don't believe I'm in a proper reality/timeline anymore.

I agree with this. One thing I’ve also come to realize is that a lot of people simply believe everything they read on the internet these days.

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I'd say the article is self-consistent, but not necessarily credible. I don't think "hack" means literal network intrusion. If the article's own description of the provenance of the information is taken at face value, cloning a hard drive at a repair shop without authorization still qualifies as "hacked", and in violation of Twitter terms.

The "authorization" is provided by the owner of the laptop, which is legally the owner of the shop, since whoever dropped the machine off signed a contract indicating as much.

owner of hard disk =/= owner of information on it. Anything less, means all the data you store on AWS automatically belongs to Amazon to do with as they please.

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Why? Watergate was largely built off journalistic work not hacked materials, obviously deep throat was inside the FBI but he was never quoted

>obviously deep throat was inside the FBI Which is still a huge moral difference. I would have hoped that HN would be one community that would understand the difference between a whistleblower leaking data to journalists to expose a crime versus an outsider committing a crime in order to acquire data to leak for their own political gain. But I guess I shouldn't expect that considering many people here think Snowden,…

> I will always work backwards from the conclusion that my faction is incapable of hypocrisy no matter what

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Why is everyone ignoring @jack's official explanation for why Twitter blocked the specific link from being shared? This is the one falsifiable action Twitter clearly took. Twitters official policy is to not allow publication of hacked material or information with Personally Identifying Information - and this material was hacked and had unredacted personal email addresses. I haven't seen any reasonable arguments again…

I don't think platforms like Twitter should act like such a gatekeeper. It's like being a rule maker and a judge at the same time, which could lead to abuse easily.

Free speech prevents the US government from acting like gatekeepers, not private publishers.

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This is the key point. Twitter blocked the NYPost article before doing any sort of investigation. Jack is just trying to justify it after the fact.

Just like the policy change he made to privilege government-connected after an extended period of letting Trump get away with violating Twitter’s supposed rules. For some reason, the Trumpeters never combined about that retrospective justification. The Jack giveth, the Jack taketh away... That's what happens with a free press when you are at first see as a benefit and later a liability to the person who owns a press.…

"policy change he made to privilege government-connected after"

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Instead of blaming fake news and misinformation for the 2016 elections outcome, maybe the Democrats should look themselves in the mirror. I have yet to see a clear decisive causation link between the Russian interference (e.g. bot farms) and the outcome of the election. Of course there was interference, nobody denies it. But show me that these trolls swayed the election. There is none.

Is there a word for the typical arguments that you see where there are 100 false premises and to even make your case you have to dismantle each one? The Russia conspiracy theory is laden with these. So many conversations are very tedious because of the number of falsehoods you have to break down before you make any progress. Many folks seem to accept it as a given that troll farms were successful. The posts themselve…

Gish gallop comes close https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

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This tempest in a teapot is why I am an advocate for RSS. Why do people depend on Twitter or FB for their news? Curate your own news feed with RSS. Read widely, read things that challenge your belief systems, pick quality reporting. If the NY post is your jam spend 2 seconds actually setting up an RSS feed for their site, Reggie their reporting, and click through to read about Hunter Biden.

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Unless the IRS was hacked, this comparison is invalid.

What hack? The amount of disinformation and lack uninformed opinions is astounding. Try coming back to the middle on politics and reading news sources from one side. The PC was left at a repair shop unclaimed, it then became the shops property. They were explicitly given access to the material, but Hunter never picked it up, this isn't a hack, and far less a violation of privacy than the Federal Government employee's…

As if this needed clarification (it very much did not):

https://time.com/5902557/hunter-biden-rudy-giuliani-ukraine/

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