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Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by jas- » Tue, Jun 05, 2018, 3:23 AM UTC

Does this remind anyone else of the back to the future movie where Biff is the free worlds leader and just a pompous asshat with the power to keep being a pompous asshat?

Having watched Microsoft over the years steal ideas from smaller companies (not purchase them then bastardize and part them out mind you), but actually steal their ideas and make them standard in their operating system.

Some examples are CDR/CDRW now standard after small companies in the late 90's developing the standard.

The bastardized implementation of Active Directory after Novell's Netware platform and the later implementations of OpenLDAP and the standards that were spurned.

What about the MIT Kerberos authentication mechanisms after Microsofts MsCHAPv2, MsCHAP & NTLM roll your own crypto schemes were found easily crackable and exploitable?

I can go on but actually have to do some work today...

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by Angostura » Tue, Jun 05, 2018, 12:36 PM UTC

falsedan wrote: post #546

Angostura wrote: post #32

Personally, I can't wait for GitHub360 Professional for Sharepoint 360.

> Sharepoint Don't you even dare think about it much less tell MS about this idea

I'm wrestling with Sharepoint as I type. I don't see why all you lot shouldn't have to suffer too.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by tostr » Tue, Jun 05, 2018, 2:15 PM UTC

smartmic wrote: post #987

tostr wrote: post #698

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not very much on topic, but is the book worth reading? I started a couple of times but always kinda tuned out at some point.

It is not an easy, pleasurable read, maybe too intellectual. But it is worth for the truth and insight it provides.

Thanks for the input! Will give it another try.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by rixrax » Tue, Jun 05, 2018, 8:22 PM UTC

sytse wrote: post #766

rixrax wrote: post #731

GitHub is a venture backed company with some $350M raised according to Crunchbase[1]. As such, your options are pretty much limited to IPO, being acquired, generating crazy profits and buying out investors to stay private, or go bankrupt. Since it appears they had hard time turning profitable[2], I’m hardly surprised that GH May be ending the way of Microsoft. I think it’s worthwile question to everyone who is lament…

GitLab took external investments will have a liquidity event at some point. That means an acquisition or an IPO. Right now we're aiming for an IPO https://about.gitlab.com/strategy/#goals as we have since 2015 when we took the first external investment.

Out of topic, but how often do you have the ear of CEO: sytse, one specific wish for Gitlab that I have: please enable 'one-click' automatic LetsEncryptNow certificate creation for GitLab Pages with custom domain names (just like GitHub is doing it today) instead of me having to go out of my way to go get a X.509 from a CA for my TLS/SSL enabled site[1].

[1] https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/pages/getting_starte...

EDIT: typos

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by alkonaut » Tue, Jun 05, 2018, 9:35 PM UTC

wmij wrote: post #759

alkonaut wrote: post #580

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Why would they sunset TFS (Or VSTS)? I use both and there is barely any overlap in features. GitHub is only code storage + a rudimentary issue manager. There is very little release management, test management, CI/CD etc. If anything I’d expect them to integrate better and of course integrate more with Azure (e.g one-click setup of build/test on azure from any Github project)

> Why would they sunset TFS (Or VSTS)? Admittedly I've been away from TFS for a number of years, however, it seems that GitHub Enterprise is a natural fit product wise for revenue stream via licensing thru MSDN to get organizations onboard with GitHub that weren't before. If they were to sunset TFS and provide a migration path, it would end up giving them significant licensing dollars. The more important point I was…

Superficially it seems there is some overlap, but github’s issue tracking for example is very simple (assuming enterprise is the same, I haven’t seen it).

VSTS supports the JIRA level of features like complex workflows, hierarchical issues, scrum/kanban boards (including hierarchical sub teams with differing sprint dates), burndowns and hundreds of other charts.

I would love to see all that ported to github, but it just wouldn’t be GitHub any more then.

To me they seem like VS and VS code. One is a big fat enterprisey thing and one is lighter. The enterprise version of GitHub doesn’t seem so focused on enterprise processes as VSTS is, but rather on enterprise infrastructure things (auth stuff, cloud integration stuff...).

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by dragonsh » Wed, Jun 06, 2018, 1:49 PM UTC

marcinkuzminski wrote: post #958

dragonsh wrote: post #956

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Try https://kallithea-scm.org/ supporting not just git but also hg and svn.

Kallithea doesn't support SVN, only RhodeCode does which Kallithea forked. SVN support amongst many other security fixes and features were added at a later stage into RhodeCode.

On Kallithea activity and release is better than rhodecode and truly open source under software conservancy. Kallithea do support svn and it has moved on, with turbogears 2 support and now the theme is also modern based on bootstrap.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by dabockster » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 12:52 AM UTC

gurkendoktor wrote: post #84

dabockster wrote: post #13

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We still have Gitlab if MSFT decides to do anything malicious.

I don't think the big loss here is GitHub-the-software, but this short sweet period in time where everyone, from Microsoft to Apple, had their source code on the same platform. I doubt that e.g. Swift would have moved to GitHub if it had already been owned by Microsoft.

Agreed. Having GitHub be the place for OSS code has definitely been beneficial and convenient. That being said, I don't feel like it would be the end of the world if some of the projects moved to competing platforms.

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by kuberstone » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:55 AM UTC

nyxtom wrote: post #197

It's interesting that the HN community continues to make reference to the prospect of a decentralized internet when Git was built to be decentralized in the first place. In spite of this, we all have congregated around GitHub for the community and are shocked when the centralized source we've been using gets acquired by a company we don't trust. That's sort of the whole point of centralization, you can't trust it. Ma…

This is why GH is popular it's vakue is in supporting a central hub for oss projects

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by shevegen » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 3:34 PM UTC

EnderMB wrote: post #117

I spent eight years building software on .NET, so I have a lot of time for Microsoft, but I fully understand why a lot of people aren't happy with this news. It's been good to have a leader in open-source that is unaffiliated with anyone but the tech they chose to use (Ruby/Rails). For me, it doesn't matter who takes it over - it's just sad to see a neutral player disappear. With all that said, things have changed a…

It's a real disaster.

People ten years ago did not sign up for a MS github, so why should they now want to stay?

Re: Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub

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Post by shevegen » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 3:35 PM UTC

closeparen wrote: post #371

EnderMB wrote: post #117

I spent eight years building software on .NET, so I have a lot of time for Microsoft, but I fully understand why a lot of people aren't happy with this news. It's been good to have a leader in open-source that is unaffiliated with anyone but the tech they chose to use (Ruby/Rails). For me, it doesn't matter who takes it over - it's just sad to see a neutral player disappear. With all that said, things have changed a…

This dovetails nicely with Windows Subsystem for Linux, VS Code, and Microsoft’s ongoing play to capture the Silicon Valley hipster development ecosystem that Apple is alienating.

Not quite so.

I think WSL is a great idea and it also works very well, if we ignore minor bugs and oddities. But the acquisition of github is AWFUL. Microsoft gave the choice of "take it or leave it, my way or the highway".

There was no way for me to associate with the move so I was gone from github after 10 years.