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Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by matteoforte »

endymi0n wrote: post #103
tedsanders wrote: post #19

Just as a heads up, even though GPT-5.5 is releasing today, the rollout in ChatGPT and Codex will be gradual over many hours so that we can make sure service remains stable for everyone (same as our previous launches). You may not see it right away, and if you don't, try again later in the day. We usually start with Pro/Enterprise accounts and then work our way down to Plus. We know it's slightly annoying to have to…

Did you guys do anything about GPT‘s motivation? I tried to use GPT-5.4 API (at xhigh) for my OpenClaw after the Anthropic Oauthgate, but I just couldn‘t drag it to do its job. I had the most hilarious dialogues along the lines of „You stopped, X would have been next.“ - „Yeah, I‘m sorry, I failed. I should have done X next.“ - „Well, how about you just do it?“ - „Yep, I really should have done it now.“ - “Do X, righ…

Had the same issue – solved it setting “thinking” to “high”. Hope it helps :)

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by justinclift »

bananaflag wrote: post #903
butlike wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This brings up an interesting philosophical point: say we get to AGI... who's to say it won't just be a super smart underachiever-type? "Hey AGI, how's that cure for cancer coming?" "Oh it's done just gotta...formalize it you know. Big rollout and all that..." I would find it divinely funny if we "got there" with AGI and it was just a complete slacker. Hard to justify leaving it on, but too important to turn it off.

I know it's a joke, but it's a common enough joke (it's even in Godel Escher Bach in some form) that I feel the need to rebut it. I think a slacker AGI could figure out how to build a non-slacker AGI. So it would only slack once.

> I think a slacker AGI could figure out how to build a non-slacker AGI.

Sure. But that's a job for tomorrow. ;)

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by brigandish »

litigator wrote: post #773
brigandish wrote: post #763

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you in the UK? I've not had this happen to me (I'm not in the UK) so I'm wondering if the Online Safety Act has affected this, as it has with other products.

I am from the UK and have not had this happen to me (Yet? perhaps)

Fingers crossed!

Re: GPT-5.5

#984

Post by ningshiqi »

endymi0n wrote: post #103
tedsanders wrote: post #19

Just as a heads up, even though GPT-5.5 is releasing today, the rollout in ChatGPT and Codex will be gradual over many hours so that we can make sure service remains stable for everyone (same as our previous launches). You may not see it right away, and if you don't, try again later in the day. We usually start with Pro/Enterprise accounts and then work our way down to Plus. We know it's slightly annoying to have to…

Did you guys do anything about GPT‘s motivation? I tried to use GPT-5.4 API (at xhigh) for my OpenClaw after the Anthropic Oauthgate, but I just couldn‘t drag it to do its job. I had the most hilarious dialogues along the lines of „You stopped, X would have been next.“ - „Yeah, I‘m sorry, I failed. I should have done X next.“ - „Well, how about you just do it?“ - „Yep, I really should have done it now.“ - “Do X, righ…

I've seen the same thing. It would keep running for a long time, then produce nothing useful, almost like it got stuck halfway through.

If I asked the same thing again, it would often work normally. So the weird part wasn't that it couldn't do the task — it just failed to continue once it got into that state.

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by michaelcampbell »

mudkipdev wrote: post #160

This is 3x the price of GPT-5.1, released just 6 months ago. Is no one else alarmed by the trend? What happens when the cheaper models are deprecated/removed over time?

> What happens when the cheaper models are deprecated/removed over time?

Fewer people will use it.

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by furyofantares »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #873
vthallam wrote: post #142

This model is great at long horizon tasks, and Codex now has heartbeats, so it can keep checking on things. Give it your hardest problem that would take hours with verifiable constraints, you will see how good this is:) *I work at OAI.

Is there any task that actually doesn't require human intervention in-between, even if its just to setup stuff? Like I will get Opus to make me an app but it will stop in between because I need to setup the db and plug in the API keys and Opus really can't do that on its own yet

Porting large amount of code.

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by LEDThereBeLight »

William_BB wrote: post #842
_alternator_ wrote: post #330

> One engineer at NVIDIA who had early access to the model went as far as to say: "Losing access to GPT‑5.5 feels like I've had a limb amputated.” This quote is more sinister than I think was intended; it likely applies to all frontier coding models. As they get better, we quickly come to rely on them for coding. It's like playing a game on God Mode. Engineers become dependent; it's truly addictive. This matches my o…

> I'll make more progress than mentally wearing myself out reading a bunch of LLM generated code trying to figure out how to solve the problem manually. I feel sorry for whoever has to work on that codebase. This is the literal definition of tech debt.

You’re still living in the past. It will be an LLM working on it in the future.

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by William_BB »

LEDThereBeLight wrote: post #987
William_BB wrote: post #842

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'll make more progress than mentally wearing myself out reading a bunch of LLM generated code trying to figure out how to solve the problem manually. I feel sorry for whoever has to work on that codebase. This is the literal definition of tech debt.

You’re still living in the past. It will be an LLM working on it in the future.

yeah. In the future when? 2, 3, 5 years from now on? Do you think current LLMs don't get confused by shitty code?

That code they're writing now will need fixing tomorrow, not 5 years later.

Re: GPT-5.5

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Post by rasputin243 »

thereeldeel wrote: post #863
vthallam wrote: post #142

This model is great at long horizon tasks, and Codex now has heartbeats, so it can keep checking on things. Give it your hardest problem that would take hours with verifiable constraints, you will see how good this is:) *I work at OAI.

Will Codex App support new context window, rather than compaction, for "unrelated" sub-tasks during long horizon tasks?

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