The batteries are critical but sometimes companies will also package the storage in same chip as CPU and ram which means that you have a dead processor when your storage wears out
All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
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Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#982Earlier quoted context omitted.
I also want headphone jacks back - which I'm sure will be less popular here than batteries. We used to have waterproof phones with both. I'm not sure about the rules around required ability but I'd like that too
Every phone should have a SCSI port with an included terminator in the box.
Yeah, I'll add that to my phone. what kind of scsi port, there are a few choices ;-)
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#983It’s been long enough that people of forgotten what’s it’s like. Cameras still have replaceable batteries, there are several benefits: I can have two (or more) batteries, if it runs out I just change it. I don’t need walk around with a USB battery pack and cable hanging off the device preventing me from using it properly. I can put the battery on charge somewhere and leave it, even if not completely secure, because j…
The fact that pretty much no phones have a replaceable battery says something. And it doesn't mean that all manufacturers are somehow colluding with each. The market is very competitive and pretty much every manufacturer decided the trade offs are not worth the benefit. If Samsung or Xiaomi or Google could sell you a better phone with a replaceable battery, they would. But everyone came to the conclusion that the tra…
Yes for batteries, but I do think there are anticompetitive reasons for phones mostly not having headphone jacks anymore. It's not exactly collusion, it's more vertical integration.
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#984Earlier quoted context omitted.
The main issue of paying someone to teplace the battery is procuring the battery in the first place. For example, good luck finding good apple batteries in regions where there is no official apple service. Most Chinese parts are inferior: for example rates for max 500 cycles instead of 1000
Just to clarify something: afaik official apple batteries are “chinese” in origin.
Sure, but that doesn’t mean every chinese battery is the same.
For some reason there are no 3rd-party batteries of the same quality as Apple’s. And Apple doesn’t distribute them freely to other countries.
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#985Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the exact same as with EVs. We COULD have an EV with a 200kWh battery that can go 1000km++ on a charge in -30C weather. But nobody really needs that beyond a few outliers. What we NEED is ubiquitous and easy charging. Going for a burger, it'll take 20 minutes for you to order, eat and walk out. On a 300kW charger in the parking lot you can in theory get up to 100kWh charged. Or less with a slower one. Even plugg…
But why put charges at burger shacks? For most people most of the time charge while you sleep. On trips charge along the highway. Every single store doesn’t need chargers, it’s a waste.
There are reasons for burger shacks to NOT have chargers, for EVs and phones alike: restaurants make money by maximizing customer throughput. Excuses for customers to extend stays is damaging to them.
There are other types of businesses, such as high end restaurants and furniture stores, that benefit from customers extending times in the store. Burger shops aren't one of those.
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#986Earlier quoted context omitted.
The fact that pretty much no phones have a replaceable battery says something. And it doesn't mean that all manufacturers are somehow colluding with each. The market is very competitive and pretty much every manufacturer decided the trade offs are not worth the benefit. If Samsung or Xiaomi or Google could sell you a better phone with a replaceable battery, they would. But everyone came to the conclusion that the tra…
Fairphone exists. The batteries are easily replaceable, they have a video on their website. It's no thicker than many other phones, runs on non Google OS, maybe just check it out. I have one and am totally satisfied with it. https://www.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-e-operating-sy...
I support changeable batteries as a 'no duh' feature. But when I checked out Fairphone previously (several years ago when I was phone shopping) and personally found it as 'neat concept, but a shame it seems to have been born obsolete' and lacked some of the hardware features I was looking for.
If it works for you, great though.
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#987Earlier quoted context omitted.
re: flashlights. Still no real upgrade for hexbright, which is a shame. I wish they were still being made. Fortunately, mine are still fine, and I expect to be able to repair them should they break. (xtal is a common failure point apparently) Standard battery type is nice, but also has microusb charging port, the part that didn't age well. Perhaps new circuit boards (with usb-pd charging, usb-c connector and mems osc…
I suppose it depends on what you want out of a flashlight. It's kind of cool that you can flash the firmware over USB, but the rest of it is middling, and there are quite a few flashlights today running open source firmwares with exposed flashing pads. Regulated, open source, flashable, USB-charging, and a standardized battery describes most lights from https://www.firefly-outdoor.com/
The hexbright's body is the main thing. The insides could be completely new.
My plan is to keep it running. Perhaps replace the emitter by a more efficient one at some point, and repair anything as needed. If somebody bothers to make a better board someday, I will upgrade to that as long as it is still open hardware.
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#988Why don't they do something useful like "phones will get perpetual software updates" ?
Without security updates, slack, bank software etc. will refuse to install and your phone will be a brick with replaceable batteries in 5-10 years. Or a single utility device.
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#989If a battery can do 1000 cycles and remain above 80% capacity it is exempt from this, which is exactly what Apple implemented a few years ago. Low cost phones will be most affected.
This is wrong, the new regulation doesn't have any exceptions regarding the number of charge cycles.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...
Re: All phones sold in the EU to have replaceable batteries from 2027
#990I was looking forward to finally be able to easily switch out (i)Phone batteries again - after 20 years - but turns out the lobbyists managed to get a loophole in the law - exempting Apple & Co from making their phones more repairable / longer live-able. > If a battery can do 1000 cycles and remain above 80% capacity it is exempt
I read the same comment several times and I don't know where you guys got that idea, but it is wrong. This is the actual text of the law, nowhere does it mentions 1000 cycles:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...